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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:34 pm

Trump "chicken" coup is nothing.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Joe » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:36 pm

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The right-wing news outlet Newsmax on Monday broadcast a lengthy statement to "clarify" false and baseless claims made on its platform about two vote-processing companies, Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems, and the 2020 election.

"Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note that it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies," John Tabacco said on the network.
Funny how the prospect of a defamation lawsuit can clarify "reporting." :coffee:
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:53 pm

Final appeal!
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Re: US Election 2020

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Pence is Brutus
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:06 pm

Spurious and irrelevant though the question of 'who won more counties?' may be, we can at least try to use accurate numbers. Biden won 538, Trump won 2,574. When we look at states (and the District of Columbia) we find that Biden won 26, Trump won 25 (source for both).

None of that has any bearing on the outcome, since the president of the US is chosen via Electoral College votes. In that arena Biden won a solid victory. Trump won the same number of electoral votes in 2016 and called it 'a landslide.'

Sad puppies will get their vicarious thrills from Giuliani jerking off in courtrooms and over the internet. That says more about them than it does about the results of the election.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Seabass » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:08 pm

Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:29 am
I think it would be the height of arrogance to think I knew more about it than Rudy Giuliani.
And yet you have enough arrogance to think you know more about it than the dozens of judges who have tossed Giuliani's nonsense out of court. You're so biased, Cunt.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:24 pm

All sound pretty unlikely, but it won't matter, with Biden in charge.

He can now use Trump's refreshed 'federal killings legislation' to investigate him until they get a death penalty.

Unless, of course, they were exaggerating their differences with him, then it will be all 'unity'...
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:26 pm

We want Trump deported. To Moscow.

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Post by Cunt » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:27 pm

Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:08 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:29 am
I think it would be the height of arrogance to think I knew more about it than Rudy Giuliani.
And yet you have enough arrogance to think you know more about it than the dozens of judges who have tossed Giuliani's nonsense out of court. You're so biased, Cunt.
They tossed it out without ever having to hear the evidence.

It reminds me of a 'phaser attack' threat to a judge, made by an Alberta kook, trying desperately to get a matter before the court, so it could be acknowledged. (Silverberg)

They did charge him, but tossed it before they had to go through the awkward step of hearing his evidence.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Seabass » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:29 pm

Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:27 pm
Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:08 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:29 am
I think it would be the height of arrogance to think I knew more about it than Rudy Giuliani.
And yet you have enough arrogance to think you know more about it than the dozens of judges who have tossed Giuliani's nonsense out of court. You're so biased, Cunt.
They tossed it out without ever having to hear the evidence.
No they didn't, as has already been explained to you.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:32 pm

Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:29 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:27 pm
Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:08 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:29 am
I think it would be the height of arrogance to think I knew more about it than Rudy Giuliani.
And yet you have enough arrogance to think you know more about it than the dozens of judges who have tossed Giuliani's nonsense out of court. You're so biased, Cunt.
They tossed it out without ever having to hear the evidence.
No they didn't, as has already been explained to you.
I guess I find Giuliani more believable than you, too.

Maybe if you wrote better, or showed more honesty about your personal bias...I dunno...or maybe if you sold cigars between your rantings...
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Joe » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:23 pm

Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:32 pm
Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:29 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:27 pm
Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:08 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:29 am
I think it would be the height of arrogance to think I knew more about it than Rudy Giuliani.
And yet you have enough arrogance to think you know more about it than the dozens of judges who have tossed Giuliani's nonsense out of court. You're so biased, Cunt.
They tossed it out without ever having to hear the evidence.
No they didn't, as has already been explained to you.
I guess I find Giuliani more believable than you, too.

Maybe if you wrote better, or showed more honesty about your personal bias...I dunno...or maybe if you sold cigars between your rantings...
Well Cunt, what you or I or Giuliani believe is irrelevant. These judges, for better or worse, are the arbiters of the matter and lawyers like Giuliani have the task of convincing them and juries that their arguments and evidence justifies a decision in their client's favor.

That's not my opinion by the way. It's the first sentence in Article III of the US Constitution. The only appeal is to a higher court and appeals end at the Supreme Court, no matter how much Giuliani shit talks on his podcast.

If he ain't winning, it's his own damn fault. :coffee:
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Seabass » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:35 pm

Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:32 pm
Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:29 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:27 pm
Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:08 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:29 am
I think it would be the height of arrogance to think I knew more about it than Rudy Giuliani.
And yet you have enough arrogance to think you know more about it than the dozens of judges who have tossed Giuliani's nonsense out of court. You're so biased, Cunt.
They tossed it out without ever having to hear the evidence.
No they didn't, as has already been explained to you.
I guess I find Giuliani more believable than you, too.

Maybe if you wrote better, or showed more honesty about your personal bias...I dunno...or maybe if you sold cigars between your rantings...
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"They want to take away your hamburgers. This is what Stalin dreamt about but never achieved." —Sebastian Gorka

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:54 pm

Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:35 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:32 pm

I guess I find Giuliani more believable than you, too.

Maybe if you wrote better, or showed more honesty about your personal bias...I dunno...or maybe if you sold cigars between your rantings...
It must feel funny to be outperformed on farting. You'll be ok.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:04 pm

Rumour has it that the stimulus bill (that no-one read) has stuff in it about a rigged election lol

https://off-guardian.org/2020/12/22/wha ... ulus-bill/

It's mentioned here, with a link to the full text.
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