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Post by Joe » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:40 pm

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:51 pm

You can't do a satire if your basic thrust is defending the establishment and/or the status quo. That's why right-wing comedians don't really satire - instead they tend to mock the anti-establishment types, which admittedly tends to go down well with their audiences even though it doesn't really challenge or question anything too consequential.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:47 pm

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Mr. Paul is more convincing than you, but I did clip very little out of his speech.
And the courts haven't said it, but...um...

Trump knows about the aliens. (no comment about their colour, though...which is probably just privilege rearing its ugly head)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weird-news ... s-n1250333
A former Israeli space security chief has sent eyebrows shooting heavenward by saying that earthlings have been in contact with extraterrestrials from a "galactic federation."
Now, what are the odds that this ex-chief is selling a book with his pronouncements? :)
Is Galaxian a former Israeli space security chief?!? :o
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:34 am

Alabama congressman Mo Brooks will delay January vote count by a few hours, attempting house and senate to vote once more on accepting electors.
https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1 ... 2473697281

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Post by JimC » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:39 am

Tero wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:34 am
Alabama congressman Mo Brooks will delay January vote count by a few hours, attempting house and senate to vote once more on accepting electors.
https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1 ... 2473697281
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:58 am

Senate hearings. Just play the Chris Krebs bits.
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Post by Cunt » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:08 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:51 pm
You can't do a satire if your basic thrust is defending the establishment and/or the status quo.
Um, in the US, the establishment is the left. They control Hollywood, Washington, news media and academia.

Maybe it's different where you are.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:11 am

Cunt wrote:
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You can't do a satire if your basic thrust is defending the establishment and/or the status quo.
Um, in the US, the establishment is the left.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:11 am

To expand, the establishment is neoliberal corporatism. I.e. the right wing (which includes segments of the Democrat party).
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Post by Cunt » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:14 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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To expand, the establishment is neoliberal corporatism. I.e. the right wing (which includes segments of the Democrat party).
Lets take an example...

The trans issues raised in the last few years.

Are they 'right' or 'left' issues, politically?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:16 am

What issues? And what's that got to do with establishment politics?
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Post by Hermit » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:17 am

Cunt wrote:
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I have more faith in satire than you do, and expect it will maintain it's bite. However, satire is a form of commentary and I don't give it a pass anymore than I would an op-ed. I see each as argument, and evaluate it as such.
Hmmm...is it rude to ask you for examples? I've not seen biting satire aimed at Biden or Harris, from mainstream. It's almost like they are boot-lickers...that can't be right...
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Joe Biden (also known as "Diamond Joe" or "Uncle Joe") was a recurring fictionalized characterization of the American politician of the same name in The Onion, a satirical newspaper that publishes humorous parodies of current events. Between 2009 and 2019, The Onion staff consistently portrayed Biden as an outrageous character who shared almost nothing in common with his namesake besides the title of vice president of the United States. Instead, the publication portrayed Biden as a blue-collar "average Joe", an affable "goofy uncle", a muscle car driver, an avid fan of 1980s hair metal, a raucous party animal, a shameless womanizer, a recidivistic petty criminal, and a drug-dealing outlaw. The Biden character became one of The Onion's most popular features during the Obama presidency, garnering critical acclaim and a large readership.
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It's easy to find more examples, but you don't seem bothered to look for them I don't feel obliged to spend more than a few minutes providing you with links to them.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:24 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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What issues? And what's that got to do with establishment politics?
All of the trans issues are Democrat-friendly, less so Republican-friendly.

Now look at whether that leftie issue is accepted in movies, news orgs, academia, TV shows (is that even a thing anymore?) and the social media platforms.

I think they all universally vilify J.K. Rowling and John Cleese, for having the gall to try to be funny about it, or support free expression instead of the expected lockstep.

I'd say the establishment is even pushing that stuff into childrens education. But that might sound like a conspiracy theory.
It's easy to find more examples, but you don't seem bothered to look for them I don't feel obliged to spend more than a few minutes providing you with links to them.
The first minute WAS mocking Biden's apology, but it wasn't exactly 'biting'. They didn't even touch on the fact that he was accused of digitally raping her, not just grabbing her shoulders.

But the next three minutes were bashing Trump. Less kindly, of course.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:27 am

Cunt wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:24 am
pErvinalia wrote:
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What issues? And what's that got to do with establishment politics?
All of the trans issues are Democrat-friendly, less so Republican-friendly.
I.e. not establishment.
Now look at whether that leftie issue is accepted in movies, news orgs, academia, TV shows (is that even a thing anymore?) and the social media platforms.
That's not politics.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:28 am

Cunt wrote:
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But the next three minutes were bashing Trump. Less kindly, of course.
Trump is a bit of a special case. He invites ridicule.
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