Christian names, Atheist names ?

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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Gallstones » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:26 pm

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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:12 pm

Gallstones wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:I'm easy with most things.
Sigworthy. :hehe:
And hard when it counts. :levi:
I'm envious. What's the secret?
Love.
:fall: Too true. *sigh*
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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by mistermack » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:48 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
mistermack wrote:What's the secret?
Love.
:fall: Too true. *sigh*
Well, that's good news. I must have been in love this morning, when I woke up then.
All I have to do now is find out who with.
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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Jason » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:28 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:My name (Ian) is biblical in origin, being a Scottish form of John (by the way Scots, Ian = John? W.T.F? I don't even... :think: ).
Eoin is a Gaelic form of John, adopted into Gaelic in early medieval Ireland from the Latin name Ioannes. It was carried to Scotland by Irish settlers and has remained in use in both Irish and Scottish Gaelic to the present day. Eoin was pronounced \OAÑ\ [1], with the same vowel as moan and with \Ñ\ as the Spanish ñ in señor or the French gn in montagne. The pronunciation evolved over time, but this pronunciation was used in both Irish and Scottish Gaelic past the end of the 17th century.
Iain is a modern Scottish Gaelic name, derived from Eoin but considered distinct from it in the same way that Jane and Joan are distinct in modern English. We have found no evidence that a name Iain existed before the 19th century. Ian is an English or Scots [2] spelling of Iain, coined in the 19th century according to our evidence. We find no evidence of any Scottish name pronounced \EE-@n\ until modern times. \@\ represents a schwa, the sound of the a in about.
http://medievalscotland.org/problem/names/iain.shtml

Linguistics.. :P

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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Bella Fortuna » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:46 am

PordFrefect wrote:Linguistics.. :P
Definitely biblical!
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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Pappa » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:27 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:My name (Ian) is biblical in origin, being a Scottish form of John (by the way Scots, Ian = John? W.T.F? I don't even... :think: ).
Ian
Jan
Ivan
Ieuan
Ioan
John
Johann
Giovanni

They all come from the Hebrew "Yohanan", via the Greek "Iōánnēs" and Latin "Ioannes".
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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Ronja » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:53 pm

Not to forget:
Johannes
Johan
Jon
Joni
Juhani
Juha
Juho

...and I'm sure there are more derivative forms still.
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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Pappa » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:05 pm

Ronja wrote:Not to forget:
Johannes
Johan
Jon
Joni
Juhani
Juha
Juho

...and I'm sure there are more derivative forms still.
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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Svartalf » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:06 pm

not to mention Seàn, and such feminine variants as jane, Joan(na), Sinéad, Sionait, Siobhàn etc...
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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by borealis » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:07 pm

Ronja wrote:Not to forget:
Joni
Bearing in mind that that's how they used to pronounce "ion" in Finnish language, that would make an excellent scientific name despite the religious background.

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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by apophenia » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:16 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:My name (Ian) is biblical in origin, being a Scottish form of John (by the way Scots, Ian = John? W.T.F? I don't even... :think: ).
This likely has to do with the orthography of Old Latin, which is why you see Iesu for Jesus. I forget the particulars so if someone can direct me to a cogent summary, many blessing be they upon your head.



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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by apophenia » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:22 pm

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And hard when it counts. :levi:
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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:50 pm

Juan is John in Spanish.
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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by Pappa » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:01 pm

apophenia wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:My name (Ian) is biblical in origin, being a Scottish form of John (by the way Scots, Ian = John? W.T.F? I don't even... :think: ).
This likely has to do with the orthography of Old Latin, which is why you see Iesu for Jesus. I forget the particulars so if someone can direct me to a cogent summary, many blessing be they upon your head.
The English hard J is really unusual. In most European languages it's got an I or Y sound, so it's easy to understand how all the names derived from each other and a common source. Evan and Iwan are both in the family too.

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Re: Christian names, Atheist names ?

Post by hadespussercats » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:55 pm

How did Jack come to be a nickname for John?
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