Things believers find most offensive...

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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by Atheist-Lite » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:23 pm

Rum wrote:Suggesting that morality exists independently of religion.
Morality? I see no evidence for that hypothesis. :smoke:
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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by PsychoSerenity » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:32 pm

Pappa wrote: The categorising of religious belief as a mind virus.
I don't mind, I know it's true - but then I'm not really a believer, I'm a fantasist. And actually I've mostly stopped that now as well.
The suggestion that their religion is "just a belief".
Ditto.
Saying Jesus might not even have existed.
I really really reeally want to go back in time all magically like, and find out teh trute about this. It would be awesome to meet the guy that started it all off, if he did exist, and make some proper historical recordings of what actually happened.

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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by Rum » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:32 pm

Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:Suggesting that morality exists independently of religion.
Morality? I see no evidence for that hypothesis. :smoke:
You are talking bollocks again. No hypothesis in there.

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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by Robert_S » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:37 pm

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What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:55 pm

Why atheism itself is offensive! Because you live one short life and all is meaningless! And we kill babies.

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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by klr » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:24 pm

The plain, unvarnished truth.
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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by PsychoSerenity » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:27 pm

klr wrote:The plain, unvarnished truth.
Wow! That blows my mind. The concept of varnishing truth.
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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by Pappa » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:28 pm

Crumple wrote:
Pappa wrote:Nihilism. Actually, they don't find offensive, just very, very,very scary as far as I can tell.
That's the same for believers and atheists then? :smoke:
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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by Ian » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:32 pm

Undermining the idea that they're going to be accepted into heaven in the afterlife. Casting doubts on the notion that they'll be rewarded for their entire belief system, and exposing them to the idea that we'll all end up in the same place regardless of faith or lack thereof, is like kicking at the a center pole that holds the whole tent up.

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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by klr » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:34 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:
klr wrote:The plain, unvarnished truth.
Wow! That blows my mind. The concept of varnishing truth.
Yup, the truth with no gloss. :dance:

Seriously. Having to tip-toe around certain people who can't see beyond their own indoctrination ... :irate:
Ian wrote:Undermining the idea that they're going to be accepted into heaven in the afterlife. Casting doubts on the notion that they'll be rewarded for their entire belief system, and exposing them to the idea that we'll all end up in the same place regardless of faith or lack thereof, is like kicking at the a center pole that holds the whole tent up.
Yup, that's the plain truth alright. I'd be the worst in the world if I took that tack with certain people, yet they're free do moralise and preach. :roll:
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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by Pappa » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:46 pm

klr wrote:Having to tip-toe around certain people who can't see beyond their own indoctrination ... :irate:
I do find that need for special treatment very annoying.
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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by klr » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:20 pm

Of course, one can look on the bright side and realise that many believers have been "forced" to become more "tolerant". Sunday shopping? Ready availability of contraceptives? Just about any form of blasphemy you can think of?*


*OK, some Muslims still get hot under the burka about this. :mob:
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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by theropod » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:25 pm

How about, "Your lies are making baby Jebus cry"?

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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by Berthold » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:46 am

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Re: Things believers find most offensive...

Post by Loki » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:05 pm

reality :hairfire:
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