Moving back to God

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Re: Moving back to God

Post by Svartalf » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:53 pm

Tero wrote:Well, there's always prostitutes.
too expensive on the long run.
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Re: Moving back to God

Post by amused » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:29 am

I tried UU, again, a few months ago. The ritual felt contrived, even desperate for any meaning. I did get to hold hands with a pretty woman during the 'fellowship' thing, so there's that. Note to self - Pick your seat carefully if there's a next time.

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Re: Moving back to God

Post by Tero » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:09 am

Svartalf wrote:
Tero wrote:Well, there's always prostitutes.
too expensive on the long run.
That might be right. For the church annual "pledge" amount you might only get 12 pops with the prostitute. So it would be 4 times less, once a month, for company.

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Re: Moving back to God

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:12 am

Tero wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Tero wrote:Well, there's always prostitutes.
too expensive on the long run.
That might be right. For the church annual "pledge" amount you might only get 12 pops with the prostitute. So it would be 4 times less, once a month, for company.
You can get quite a few jumps if you tithe though. :tea:
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Re: Moving back to God

Post by Pappa » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:26 am

Dev, do you think that knowingly living a lie would leave you really unhappy, even if the ritual consoled you?

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Re: Moving back to God

Post by GrahamH » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:38 am

Pappa wrote:Dev, do you think that knowingly living a lie would leave you really unhappy, even if the ritual consoled you?
The trick would be to tell yourself that nobody can definitively prove it is a lie, and give all your attention to any consoling interpretations you can find. Keep thanking God for every bit of good, never dwell on the bad, and you might just start to convince yourself.

Oh yes, stop talking to sceptics about faith issues. Talk to people more into it than you are, but not too much so, or you will find them laughable.

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Re: Moving back to God

Post by GrahamH » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:51 am

devogue wrote:I've realised lately that I now miss the ritual, spectacle, comfort, and warmth of religion. I don't know how, but in the years to come I'm going to try to rediscover blind faith.
Rather than trying to return to religion you could:

Join a social / community group that holds regular meetings and perhaps organises public events. That could give you some degree of ritual and sense of belonging.

Regularly attend and follow large sporting or music events for spectacle and the feeling of being part of a big group.

Try volunteer work to feel that you are making a difference.

Get involved in political causes, become a party member / campaigner.

Join an amateur dramatics group.

Organise and attend RATZ meets!

Key things to focus on -

Collaborative activities with >10 people.
Something that interests you.
Something regular.
Personal face to face contact.

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Re: Moving back to God

Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:00 am

I say go for it. If it makes you happy why not? No one is gonna judge you for it. :tup:
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Re: Moving back to God

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:05 am

God fearing church dramaz!!! :ab:
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Re: Moving back to God

Post by JimC » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:16 am

devogue wrote:I've realised lately that I now miss the ritual, spectacle, comfort, and warmth of religion. I don't know how, but in the years to come I'm going to try to rediscover blind faith.
Damn good album, that...

But, on the OP, what has been seen cannot be unseen... :levi:

I'm sure that somewhere, there are organised groups with rituals, spectacles and enfolding social comfort...

I know! Football clubs!

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Re: Moving back to God

Post by GrahamH » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:53 am

JimC wrote:
devogue wrote:I've realised lately that I now miss the ritual, spectacle, comfort, and warmth of religion. I don't know how, but in the years to come I'm going to try to rediscover blind faith.
Damn good album, that...

But, on the OP, what has been seen cannot be unseen... :levi:

I'm sure that somewhere, there are organised groups with rituals, spectacles and enfolding social comfort...

I know! Football clubs!

:hehe:
They have ritual sacrifice (the sacked manager, the dive, the verbal stoning of the ref), mass prayer, hymn singing and meet in 'cathedrals of sport'.

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Re: Moving back to God

Post by Mysturji » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:56 am

devogue wrote:Seeking company
Go to the pub instead.
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Re: Moving back to God

Post by Pappa » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:11 pm

You could take up heroin. There's a huge amount of ritual there... especially if you inject.
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Re: Moving back to God

Post by Rum » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:17 pm

Pappa wrote:You could take up heroin. There's a huge amount of ritual there... especially if you inject.
Plus you wouldn't have to worry about your blood sugar! :tup:

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Re: Moving back to God

Post by nellikin » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:20 pm

... or your life
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