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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:45 pm

Try to avoid that, Sandy. Please.
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by sandinista » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:48 pm

kiki5711 wrote:He does speak well, but he should get his teeth fixed, he'd look more credible. I also couldn't understand one word in his song or raps whatever they're called.
credibility based on appearance now? Come on.
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by kiki5711 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:00 pm

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kiki5711 wrote:He does speak well, but he should get his teeth fixed, he'd look more credible. I also couldn't understand one word in his song or raps whatever they're called.
credibility based on appearance now? Come on.
Yea! and I hope he doesn't wear his pants down to his ankles either. I just can't stand that. My son has a habit of drooling his pants low, (not to his knees) but too low for my taste and I yell at him every time for that.

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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by Robert_S » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:52 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
sandinista wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:He does speak well, but he should get his teeth fixed, he'd look more credible. I also couldn't understand one word in his song or raps whatever they're called.
credibility based on appearance now? Come on.
Yea! and I hope he doesn't wear his pants down to his ankles either. I just can't stand that. My son has a habit of drooling his pants low, (not to his knees) but too low for my taste and I yell at him every time for that.
Take heart, saggy pants means he's not seriously considering a career in crime, except crimes of fashion. Ever see anyone trying to run away from the cops in those things? :hehe:


sandinista wrote:
Crumple wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
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Gawdzilla wrote:"rapper"

:hehe:
you are an old white man aren't you. :roll:
You want to die young, go ahead. That way you'll never be old.

In fact, you might want to consider that to be your best option.
:tup: That's the bitterness of age. :read:
true, although age doesn't necessarily mean being completely out of touch with the current world. I mean, the guy says "rapper" like its some kind of insult, or that all rappers or musicians are stupid. I can just hear him yelling at kids to get off his lawn. :lol:
Any rapper may or may not have a well thought out stance. But the "rapper" hat, like the "folk singer" hat or "plumber" hat, does not reflect highly on its wearer's intellectual credentials.

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What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by sandinista » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:59 am

Robert_S wrote:
Any rapper may or may not have a well thought out stance. But the "rapper" hat, like the "folk singer" hat or "plumber" hat, does not reflect highly on its wearer's intellectual credentials.
Frankly, that's complete rubbish. Based on nothing but your own opinion. May as well replace "rapper" with "black", "folk singer" with "artist" and "plumber" with "working class".
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by Robert_S » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:21 am

sandinista wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Any rapper may or may not have a well thought out stance. But the "rapper" hat, like the "folk singer" hat or "plumber" hat, does not reflect highly on its wearer's intellectual credentials.
Frankly, that's complete rubbish. Based on nothing but your own opinion. May as well replace "rapper" with "black", "folk singer" with "artist" and "plumber" with "working class".
I was speaking about widely held general opinion in the US. If you want to be taken seriously as an intellectual, put on an intellectual hat. And I was referring to "Joe the Plumber" who had his 15 minutes courtesy of McCain-Palin.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by sandinista » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:52 am

Robert_S wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Any rapper may or may not have a well thought out stance. But the "rapper" hat, like the "folk singer" hat or "plumber" hat, does not reflect highly on its wearer's intellectual credentials.
Frankly, that's complete rubbish. Based on nothing but your own opinion. May as well replace "rapper" with "black", "folk singer" with "artist" and "plumber" with "working class".
I was speaking about widely held general opinion in the US. If you want to be taken seriously as an intellectual, put on an intellectual hat. And I was referring to "Joe the Plumber" who had his 15 minutes courtesy of McCain-Palin.
Why would anyone want to consider the "widely held general opinion" of americans on anything? It's a "widely held general opinion" in the US that the earth was created 10 thousand years ago and that lady gaga is talented.
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by Robert_S » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:17 am

sandinista wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Any rapper may or may not have a well thought out stance. But the "rapper" hat, like the "folk singer" hat or "plumber" hat, does not reflect highly on its wearer's intellectual credentials.
Frankly, that's complete rubbish. Based on nothing but your own opinion. May as well replace "rapper" with "black", "folk singer" with "artist" and "plumber" with "working class".
I was speaking about widely held general opinion in the US. If you want to be taken seriously as an intellectual, put on an intellectual hat. And I was referring to "Joe the Plumber" who had his 15 minutes courtesy of McCain-Palin.
Why would anyone want to consider the "widely held general opinion" of americans on anything? It's a "widely held general opinion" in the US that the earth was created 10 thousand years ago and that lady gaga is talented.
It all depends on whether or not you consider major political change in N America to be an attainable goal, or are your politics just a fashion statement.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by sandinista » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:50 am

Robert_S wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Any rapper may or may not have a well thought out stance. But the "rapper" hat, like the "folk singer" hat or "plumber" hat, does not reflect highly on its wearer's intellectual credentials.
Frankly, that's complete rubbish. Based on nothing but your own opinion. May as well replace "rapper" with "black", "folk singer" with "artist" and "plumber" with "working class".
I was speaking about widely held general opinion in the US. If you want to be taken seriously as an intellectual, put on an intellectual hat. And I was referring to "Joe the Plumber" who had his 15 minutes courtesy of McCain-Palin.
Why would anyone want to consider the "widely held general opinion" of americans on anything? It's a "widely held general opinion" in the US that the earth was created 10 thousand years ago and that lady gaga is talented.
It all depends on whether or not you consider major political change in N America to be an attainable goal, or are your politics just a fashion statement.
fashion statement? Not sure what you mean. Like a kid wearing a Che shirt or something? :think:
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:55 am

You would have to post this! :lay:

I've been trying to convince Seth that he is a complete lunatic for wanting to be part of a militia ready to defend America from a Marxist uprising!

He will take your words as gospel!

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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by sandinista » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:09 am

JimC wrote:You would have to post this! :lay:

I've been trying to convince Seth that he is a complete lunatic for wanting to be part of a militia ready to defend America from a Marxist uprising!

He will take your words as gospel!

Delusional, romantic fools abound on both extremes of politics; always have, always will...
Yah...and you would be the true "non delusional" one I take it? Extremist as labeled by whom? You? Personal attacks do nothing to further your agenda.
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:12 am

sandinista wrote:
JimC wrote:You would have to post this! :lay:

I've been trying to convince Seth that he is a complete lunatic for wanting to be part of a militia ready to defend America from a Marxist uprising!

He will take your words as gospel!

Delusional, romantic fools abound on both extremes of politics; always have, always will...
Yah...and you would be the true "non delusional" one I take it? Extremist as labeled by whom? You? Personal attacks do nothing to further your agenda.
I am the rational average of Seth and yourself...

:hehe:

You too will drift to the centre when age brings wisdom... ;)
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by sandinista » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:25 am

JimC wrote:
sandinista wrote:
JimC wrote:You would have to post this! :lay:

I've been trying to convince Seth that he is a complete lunatic for wanting to be part of a militia ready to defend America from a Marxist uprising!

He will take your words as gospel!

Delusional, romantic fools abound on both extremes of politics; always have, always will...
Yah...and you would be the true "non delusional" one I take it? Extremist as labeled by whom? You? Personal attacks do nothing to further your agenda.
I am the rational average of Seth and yourself...

:hehe:

You too will drift to the centre when age brings wisdom... ;)
You flatter yourself...btw, not everyone sells out as they age. Only sell outs. Guessing you don't even know how old I am? :yawn:
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by Robert_S » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:28 am

37?

It is not a matter of selling out, but about not chasing the unattainable.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Conditions ripe for uprising across America

Post by sandinista » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:35 am

Robert_S wrote:37?

It is not a matter of selling out, but about not chasing the unattainable.
...and you are 39...so in 2 years I'll be "all grown up"? Interesting. I'm sure slaves (as well as pretty much member of every social/political movement) were told to not chase the "unattainable" either. Glad they never "grew up".

edit...I actually wasn't asking you...I guess I need to be 50 to be "all grown up" :roll:
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