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Re: Eyes (I'ze) in Korea: Pics and Discussion

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FBM wrote:Buddhist religion is (almost) as full of shit as any other religion, but whatever keeps them happy:
It's amazing how many folks in the West are infatuated with Buddhism and all its branches, and how they honestly believe in "enlightenment" and/or literal rebirth. They actually think that Buddhist crap is much better than Christian crap because it comes from the East and sounds mystique. Christians/Muslims/Jews are the only ones those that spout fairy tales, while all those Tantric deities, oracles, six bardos and other utter bullshit which can be seen especially in Vayrayana, are perfectly logical, sane and rational. :roll:

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Re: Eyes (I'ze) in Korea: Pics and Discussion

Post by FBM » Sat May 02, 2009 3:48 pm

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FBM wrote:Buddhist religion is (almost) as full of shit as any other religion, but whatever keeps them happy:
It's amazing how many folks in the West are infatuated with Buddhism and all its branches, and how they honestly believe in "enlightenment" and/or literal rebirth. They actually think that Buddhist crap is much better than Christian crap because it comes from the East and sounds mystique. Christians/Muslims/Jews are the only ones those that spout fairy tales, while all those Tantric deities, oracles, six bardos and other utter bullshit which can be seen especially in Vayrayana, are perfectly logical, sane and rational. :roll:
EGG-XACTLY!!! :clap: Bullshit is bullshit, no matter where it comes from. The 'mystique of the exotic Orient' angle sells. Sells bullshit to the gullible.

That said, once you bypass the religion, the philosophy itself works reasonably well, considering it's 2,500+ years old, once you correct for the time/culture/language differences. If you read the philosophy deeply, and I mean the Pali Canon, not the later 'developments', it actually leads you away from all the bullshit that people are so enamored with. Anyway, that's a long story.

That wasn't a derail, but as a preface to me derailing my own thread, I have been meaning to mention that this is a derail-friendly thread.

Remind me to tell you about the magical glow-in-the-dark turds one day. It's a large part of why I'm not a monk anymore.
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Re: Eyes (I'ze) in Korea: Pics and Discussion

Post by FBM » Sat May 02, 2009 4:22 pm

You can tell a temple is upscale if it has a two-seater honeypot factory:

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Re: Eyes (I'ze) in Korea: Pics and Discussion

Post by The Curious Squid » Sat May 02, 2009 4:25 pm

This whole thread is great FBM, I'd love to be able to go on a college night out with you and the 21 YO Korean girls :lol:

You were talking about glowing turds, yes? :hum:
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Post by FBM » Sat May 02, 2009 4:35 pm

Paco wrote:This whole thread is great FBM, I'd love to be able to go on a college night out with you and the 21 YO Korean girls :lol:

You were talking about glowing turds, yes? :hum:
:mrgreen: Yes, and thanks for asking. I've been wanting to tell this tale over here. I told it ad nauseum at RDF. I'm probably the only one who isn't sick of hearing it. :shifty:

But let me preface that story with a non sequitur photo of one of my hawt 21 y-o students and me with a shit-eating grin on my face (I'm on the left):

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Magical glow-in-the-dark turd story coming next...watch this space. It'll take a few minutes to compose.
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Post by FBM » Sat May 02, 2009 5:03 pm

Magical glow-in-the-dark-turd story as promised to my pal, Paco:

So there I was, surrounded...by other monks. I was just an ordinary American, tobacco-chewing redneck from Mississippi Thai forest monk. I'd been so for the better part of a year. *skips details* One day a group of monks from our monastery returns from a prolonged visit to the head monastery (Wat Pah Pong). I asked the one monk I'd become particularly close friends with, Phra Nah-something-or-other-prong, what he'd learned there. He said that the head monks had told them the following (paraphrased) story:

One night, one of the senior monks saw some strange lights coming from the area where the founder, Ajahn Chah, used to live. (He died 15 or 18 years ago. Whatever.) That area was preserved out of reverence, so he called on a couple of other senior monks and together they went to investigate. Turns out the lights came from the old guy's shitter.

I have to digress for a bit. In religious Buddhism, there's the belief that when an enlightened person is cremated, there are these magical stones left in the ashes. These 'relics' have the magical ability to change shape, color, NUMBER, size, etc. They serve as proof that the deceased master was really enlightened. They probably cure warts, too. (We really need a smiley for the 'air wank'! Mods!?!)

So, it turns out that, according to these senior monks, the old guy's 15~18 y-o TURDS had suddenly become these relics and were shining in order to inform mankind that the old guy was enlightened when he died. It was just a coincidence that such a story would bring more devout followers (read: donors) to the Buddha's path.

I was only semi-gruntled with that monastery and its profoundly-obese-yet-somehow-still-considered-to-be-ascetic Japanese abbot, anyway. They didn't believe in studying, and I'd ordained with the assumption that I'd get to study a lot of philosophy as a monk. :doh: This was pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. I turned in my robes a month or so later.
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Re: Eyes (I'ze) in Korea: Pics and Discussion

Post by The Curious Squid » Sat May 02, 2009 5:16 pm

What a lot of shit! :lol:

How did your stomach cope with the food when you first moved and why did you go in the first place?
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Post by FBM » Sat May 02, 2009 5:31 pm

Paco wrote:What a lot of shit! :lol:

How did your stomach cope with the food when you first moved and why did you go in the first place?
Holy shit, the food was beyond belief! The locals who can afford it do their best cooking for the monks. Gains them more 'merit' for their imaginary next life. We'd go walking barefoot 5 farking kilometers every morning (uphill both ways under heavy enemy fire) to collect food. We only ate 1 meal a day, so you really had to pack it in. That's not hard to do when your bowl is full of real, no-shit, freshly cooked Thai delicacies. I still lost 20 pounds, but that was because I wanted to.

Why did I go in the first place? Fuck. Lots of reasons. The indentured servitude that passes for normality in the modern world, for one. The concept of anatta, which is still the most advanced grasp of subjective reality that I've come across so far. (Science is the most advanced grasp of objective reality, obviously.) And I needed a break from bangin' all the Korean wimmens. No, wait. That's wrong...
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Post by The Curious Squid » Sat May 02, 2009 5:34 pm

You think you'll stay there the rest of your life?
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Post by FBM » Sat May 02, 2009 5:42 pm

Paco wrote:You think you'll stay there the rest of your life?
In Korea? :dono: I make easy money here, and don't have to work much, but wander-lust is powerful.
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Post by The Curious Squid » Sat May 02, 2009 5:45 pm

A good friend of mine left last summer to do the same thing. I've thought about it a few times but I don't think I could leave Glasgow just yet. I like it here too much for now.
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Post by FBM » Sat May 02, 2009 5:55 pm

Paco wrote:A good friend of mine left last summer to do the same thing. I've thought about it a few times but I don't think I could leave Glasgow just yet. I like it here too much for now.
Go with your feelings, man. If you're happy and comfortable where you are, that's where you should stay. There's nothing to be gained from forcing things, especially based on others' values. I was once on track to becoming an Episcopal priest. The priest who was my advisor gave me some sage advice: Don't do it unless you're absolutely convinced there's no other choice. (He later tried to talk me into gay sex, but that's a whole 'nother story. :nono: ) I still value those words. Don't make a risky, life-altering choice unless you feel that it's necessary for your happiness.

It's 3 a.m. here and I have to be at work in 4 days. I'm winding down...
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Re: Eyes (I'ze) in Korea: Pics and Discussion

Post by Beelzebub2 » Sat May 02, 2009 6:34 pm

FBM wrote:
ryokan wrote:
FBM wrote:Buddhist religion is (almost) as full of shit as any other religion, but whatever keeps them happy:
It's amazing how many folks in the West are infatuated with Buddhism and all its branches, and how they honestly believe in "enlightenment" and/or literal rebirth. They actually think that Buddhist crap is much better than Christian crap because it comes from the East and sounds mystique. Christians/Muslims/Jews are the only ones those that spout fairy tales, while all those Tantric deities, oracles, six bardos and other utter bullshit which can be seen especially in Vayrayana, are perfectly logical, sane and rational. :roll:
EGG-XACTLY!!! :clap: Bullshit is bullshit, no matter where it comes from. The 'mystique of the exotic Orient' angle sells. Sells bullshit to the gullible.

That said, once you bypass the religion, the philosophy itself works reasonably well, considering it's 2,500+ years old, once you correct for the time/culture/language differences. If you read the philosophy deeply, and I mean the Pali Canon, not the later 'developments', it actually leads you away from all the bullshit that people are so enamored with. Anyway, that's a long story.
Precisely - and that especially pertains to Tibetan "Buddhism". With its occult practices derived from Bon, it went furthest from the original Tripitaka. That can especially be seen in the latest Shudgen controversy where you couldn't tell who's nuttier - HHDL and his followers or Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and his NKT cult. Those "monks" behaving like mafia. :nono:

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Post by FBM » Sun May 03, 2009 2:06 am

ryokan wrote:Precisely - and that especially pertains to Tibetan "Buddhism". With its occult practices derived from Bon, it went furthest from the original Tripitaka. That can especially be seen in the latest Shudgen controversy where you couldn't tell who's nuttier - HHDL and his followers or Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and his NKT cult. Those "monks" behaving like mafia. :nono:
Yep. I don't think Korea has anything to compare with those whack-jobs. There is an order of married 'monks' here, and there are buttloads of people who think they'll get enlightened/go to heaven/win the lottery by chanting 'namo amitabul kwanseum bosal' over and over. :levi:
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