Are humans apes?

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Are humans apes?

Post by Lozzer » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:55 pm

I'm pretty sure we are, least in terms of anatomical and genetic family; but my tutor, however, ardently believes we're not. She's not a creationist, but argues that while we share lineage, we're separate. I think she's confused modern apes with apes as an evolutionary branch.
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Re: Are humans apes?

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:57 pm

We are apes - family Hominidae. Tell your teacher she's an ass (although she'll probably argue with the lineage there as well!)
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Re: Are humans apes?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:58 pm

Humans and apes evolved from a single forebearer species. We probably split off when two of our genes fused.
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Post by Santa_Claus » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:01 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:We probably split off when two of our genes fused.
My bet would be some sort of banana related dispute was involved.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:06 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote:We probably split off when two of our genes fused.
My bet would be some sort of banana related dispute was involved.
Yeah, a small group claimed they were a sign of an intelligent ape designer.
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Post by DRSB » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:06 pm

We parted DNA-ways with the chimps some 5 mln years ago, stlill share some 96% of the genes. If somebody is telling you we were made in god's image and they weren't, tell them something rude!
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Post by GenesForLife » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:21 pm

Devogay wrote:I'm pretty sure we are, least in terms of anatomical and genetic family; but my tutor, however, ardently believes we're not. She's not a creationist, but argues that while we share lineage, we're separate. I think she's confused modern apes with apes as an evolutionary branch.
How the fuck can a tutor be a cretinist?
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Post by GenesForLife » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:22 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Humans and apes evolved from a single forebearer species. We probably split off when two of our genes fused.
Chromosomes! :roll:
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Post by cowiz » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:23 pm

If she wants evidence that we are indeed apes, throw your feces into her face. That'll leave her with no doubt in her mind. You could also masturbate in front of her at every possible opportunity.
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Post by Dries van Tonder » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:25 pm

pawiz wrote:If she wants evidence that we are indeed apes, throw your feces into her face. That'll leave her with no doubt in her mind. You could also masturbate in front of her at every possible opportunity.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:46 pm

Devogay wrote:I'm pretty sure we are, least in terms of anatomical and genetic family; but my tutor, however, ardently believes we're not. She's not a creationist, but argues that while we share lineage, we're separate. I think she's confused modern apes with apes as an evolutionary branch.

The word "ape" has a rather imprecise meaning. Generally speaking, more and more biologists use the term to include humans. You'll hear the term "non-human apes" used more and more. We are primates and homonoids, so are most if not all apes.

Humans are classed taxonomically as follows:

Class -- Mammalia
Subclass -- Theria
Infraclass -- Eutheria
Order -- Primates
Suborder -- Anthropoidea
Infraorder -- Catarrhini
Superfamily -- Hominoidea
Family -- Hominidae
Genus -- Homo
Species -- sapiens
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Re: Are humans apes?

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:50 pm

The family Hominidae is referred to as the 'Great Apes' and contains Gorillas, Orang Utans, Chimpanzees and Humans. The lesser apes contain such creatures as baboons and pawiz.
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Re: Are humans apes?

Post by Tigger » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:58 pm

GenesForLife wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:Humans and apes evolved from a single forebearer species. We probably split off when two of our genes fused.
Chromosomes! :roll:
It's true!
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Re: Are humans apes?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:59 pm

GenesForLife wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:Humans and apes evolved from a single forebearer species. We probably split off when two of our genes fused.
Chromosomes! :roll:
Is that some kind of maffs joke? :think:
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Re: Are humans apes?

Post by Lozzer » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:34 pm

She claims we're primates, not apes.
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