Oh, absolutely! I do recognize that my wishes aren't likely to come true just because they're my wishes... but they still remain. Just like "I wish we could get to the stars" is impossible or at least impractical in any time frame that's relevant to me, I wish the above could also happen. So maybe by the time we can get to the stars, my wish above might be attained, attainable or at least somewhere closer to the horizon.Coito ergo sum wrote:The problem is that it is impossible, or at least impractical...BrettA wrote:The issue I have with the "They are not equipped..." argument is that the age specification is somewhat arbitrary and as far as I know, varying from place to place. Since humanity doesn't go "not being equipped to make informed decisions" to "being equipped" uniformly or based on a birthday, I can see at least from my perspective that I'm almost positive I'd not consider to have been abused if the "right" adult had initiated sexual advances on me at say, 13 (and I have more than a couple of girls or young-ish women from that period of my life in mind).maiforpeace wrote:Rum wrote:I am not sure we have any disagreement here, but for me it is about who holds the 'power'. Even if a child agreed to go along with the sexual requests of the paedophile in question and there was no aggression or violence and they found it pleasurable (and many do, which is where emotional confusion often arises later on), the point is that the child should not be subjected to and used for the sexual gratification of an adult - period. They are not equipped to make informed decisions goes the argument.lordpasternack wrote:The above does beg the question of whether said sexual activities are always automatically abusive, per se - and this is one of the arguing points that certain paedophiles will continue to raise, and thus far be quite entitled to raise - since hypothetically, the activity could be seen to be benign to any impartial observers.
Yes, I too am not understanding exactly what you mean LP. Are you saying that in some cases paedophilia that has been acted upon may not be abusive? Since it is a psychiatric disorder, wouldn't it at a minimum be abusive to the paedophile themselves?
I'm not sure if LP had this scenario in mind, but that's my personal take. I'll also note that I've known several guys who did experience this and all were profusely thankful for the experience and others like me who simply like the idea of this as sexual introduction but never experienced it. I know we have to have laws to protect abuse (and I fully agree with the protection), but I wish there was a way that these experiences could occur to the eager, willing and comfortable-for-life people (perhaps partly based on whether they had physically matured).
And if you were serious... no, he can't do it with the 13 y-o daughter any more than with the 40-y-o Nymph - either way there are legal issues. And for possible clarification, neither of your scenarios fit what I personally would have hoped for, as neither the 40 y-o nor the 13-y-o fell into my "more than a couple of girls or young-ish women from that period of my life". While sadly it was long after I was 13 and after losing my virginity, I did come close to getting my wish by way of a 21 y-o MILF when I was 17... and our relationship lasted maybe 4 years and I'll always be grateful for having her as a sexual mentor/tutor. Also sadly, she died ~18 months ago (at least one pic of her from the '60s is somewhere on Ratz, IIRC).
And still... "The issue I have with the "They are not equipped..." argument is that the age specification is somewhat arbitrary and as far as I know, varying from place to place..."
