
Dawkins sues Josh Timonen
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Anyone following the thread at RS, with this 'Monkeyhole' person who claims to have some sort of knowledge about the case? Most curious... 

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That sounds right.Anthroban wrote:
The author, be it a person or a contractor with employees of his own, hired to create a work holds no right of copyright ownership. Josh does not own the copyright to anything he was hired, or contracted, to create - whoever hired, or contracted him, to do it does.
eta: Depending on what countries copyright laws we're operating under (but most major nations subscribe to the same copyright treaties - so it usually makes no difference).
My father wrote numerous hardware patents while working for other companies. Though he was given credit for writing them, he did not have ownership.
Not recently, but I'll take a look...did this Monkeyhole cough up anything interesting?Bella Fortuna wrote:Anyone following the thread at RS, with this 'Monkeyhole' person who claims to have some sort of knowledge about the case? Most curious...
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No facts - just lots of fist-shaking smug "you'll see" statements about Josh being vindicated, and implications that RD's really to blame.
One wonders if it's Ms. Norton...
One wonders if it's Ms. Norton...

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Yes, I've been browsing it. He's a moron/troll, but so are most of the other people in that thread. Very few of them have got the issue of copyright ownership right, and the ones that have have just been ignored.
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Yeah, that's all.Bella Fortuna wrote:No facts - just lots of fist-shaking smug "you'll see" statements about Josh being vindicated, and implications that RD's really to blame.
There has been speculation about it being Josh's girlfriend.
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First story about all this in the mass media?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 15632.html
Took them long enough to catch up.
eta: Notice that they picked up on his little blog post. My article on RD.net still hasn't been approved, and I bet it won't be. Richard is playing it smart and letting his lawyers do the talking. Josh should keep quiet before some reporter snags his comments over at ratskep
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 15632.html
Took them long enough to catch up.
eta: Notice that they picked up on his little blog post. My article on RD.net still hasn't been approved, and I bet it won't be. Richard is playing it smart and letting his lawyers do the talking. Josh should keep quiet before some reporter snags his comments over at ratskep

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Does anyone know where we can get our hands on the full 18 pages of the complaint?
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Meanwhile, on a tangential but possibly related note, was the culprit responsible for having Rationalia listed as an "attack website" located? Only that happening at this time has a certain rodential odour to it ...
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Call me paranoid but I was thinking the exact same thingCalilasseia wrote:Meanwhile, on a tangential but possibly related note, was the culprit responsible for having Rationalia listed as an "attack website" located? Only that happening at this time has a certain rodential odour to it ...

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The thought did occur................pawiz wrote:Call me paranoid but I was thinking the exact same thingCalilasseia wrote:Meanwhile, on a tangential but possibly related note, was the culprit responsible for having Rationalia listed as an "attack website" located? Only that happening at this time has a certain rodential odour to it ...

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I had the same thought myself......Bella Fortuna wrote:The thought did occur................pawiz wrote:Call me paranoid but I was thinking the exact same thingCalilasseia wrote:Meanwhile, on a tangential but possibly related note, was the culprit responsible for having Rationalia listed as an "attack website" located? Only that happening at this time has a certain rodential odour to it ...

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Presupposing the old accusations made, not in the least nor in the lowest tone, by the Blue Butterfly, regarding Josh's immeasurable technical incompetence along with the fact that it was only rationalia.com (a small fish in the pond, no offense) that was affected, I'm inclined to think it was coincidental and that Pawiz is paranoid.
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The thought had occurred.....Anthroban wrote:Presupposing the old accusations made, not in the least nor in the lowest tone, by the Blue Butterfly, regarding Josh's immeasurable technical incompetence along with the fact that it was only rationalia.com (a small fish in the pond, no offense) that was affected, I'm inclined to think it was coincidental and that Pawiz is paranoid.
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The malware attack has been an ongoing issue since October 11. A coincidence, I think.Calilasseia wrote:Meanwhile, on a tangential but possibly related note, was the culprit responsible for having Rationalia listed as an "attack website" located? Only that happening at this time has a certain rodential odour to it ...
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I know. The thought crossed my mind. More than likely it was coincidental. But it wasn't completely illogical to briefly think it was possible.Anthroban wrote:Presupposing the old accusations made, not in the least nor in the lowest tone, by the Blue Butterfly, regarding Josh's immeasurable technical incompetence along with the fact that it was only rationalia.com (a small fish in the pond, no offense) that was affected, I'm inclined to think it was coincidental and that Pawiz is paranoid.
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