if true...even worse.Elessarina wrote:sandinista wrote:
yah
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Re: Muslims win again on 911 - Obama happy!
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Re: Muslims win again on 911 - Obama happy!
That's right, sandinista, it's bad, and if it's not bad, it's worse.sandinista wrote:if true...even worse.Elessarina wrote:sandinista wrote:
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I don't see it as a win for muslims by stepping down. In fact, this has placed the ball into muslims court to see what gesture of "acts towards peace" will they do. If they do not move the location of the mosque, they will appear even more insensitive and cruel. The pastor in Florida will look like the hero and they will look like the bully on the street.
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Well if you read it somewhere it must be true...JimC wrote:I read somewhere that he is a christian on the surface for political reasons only...sandinista wrote:he's a fucking christian.JimC wrote:A pussy atheist, though, still in the fucking closet!Elessarina wrote:Obama's not a Muslim.. he's worse than that: he's atheist!!!
Not like our PM!
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Nope, but the only way to win is to be a christian.Elessarina wrote:JimC wrote:A pussy atheist, though, still in the fucking closet!Elessarina wrote:Obama's not a Muslim.. he's worse than that: he's atheist!!!
Not like our PM!
Someone correct me if this is wrong - but I am sure I heard/read recently that in order to run for office in the US you have to have a religion?
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I think that if you're going to have a burn the Koran day, you should not limit it to the Koran. That seems stupid to me. You should burn all kinds of religious books that exist in abundance around the world. And you should do it ceremoniously. You have one big bonfire with the books, and you take one from each direction of faith and toss it on with a little speech. Perhaps an excerpt from one of the stupidet parts of that particular faith direction.

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Re: Muslims win again on 911 - Obama happy!
Why would you then call it " Burn the Koran day"?Normal wrote:I think that if you're going to have a burn the Koran day, you should not limit it to the Koran. That seems stupid to me. You should burn all kinds of religious books that exist in abundance around the world. And you should do it ceremoniously. You have one big bonfire with the books, and you take one from each direction of faith and toss it on with a little speech. Perhaps an excerpt from one of the stupidet parts of that particular faith direction.
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Sælir eru einfaldir wrote:Why would you then call it " Burn the Koran day"?Normal wrote:I think that if you're going to have a burn the Koran day, you should not limit it to the Koran. That seems stupid to me. You should burn all kinds of religious books that exist in abundance around the world. And you should do it ceremoniously. You have one big bonfire with the books, and you take one from each direction of faith and toss it on with a little speech. Perhaps an excerpt from one of the stupidet parts of that particular faith direction.


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Pappa wrote:Sælir eru einfaldir wrote:Why would you then call it " Burn the Koran day"?Normal wrote:I think that if you're going to have a burn the Koran day, you should not limit it to the Koran. That seems stupid to me. You should burn all kinds of religious books that exist in abundance around the world. And you should do it ceremoniously. You have one big bonfire with the books, and you take one from each direction of faith and toss it on with a little speech. Perhaps an excerpt from one of the stupidet parts of that particular faith direction.



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Re: Muslims win again on 911 - Obama happy!
"No religious test is required to run for office..." is in our constitution.Elessarina wrote:JimC wrote:A pussy atheist, though, still in the fucking closet!Elessarina wrote:Obama's not a Muslim.. he's worse than that: he's atheist!!!
Not like our PM!
Someone correct me if this is wrong - but I am sure I heard/read recently that in order to run for office in the US you have to have a religion?
However, Arkansas, Maryland, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas all have wording in their constitutions that you can be disqualified from public office if you deny the existence of a supreme being.

Tennessee, Article 9, Section 2:
No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.
Texas, Article 1, Section 4:
No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.
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Re: Muslims win again on 911 - Obama happy!
Wow, that´s really fucked up!maiforpeace wrote: "No religious test is required to run for office..." is in our constitution.
However, Arkansas, Maryland, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas all have wording in their constitutions that you can be disqualified from public office if you deny the existence of a supreme being.![]()
Tennessee, Article 9, Section 2:
No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.Texas, Article 1, Section 4:
No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

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However in cases where this arises the US Constitution always trumps state constitutions. So if a state has a law in their constitution that goes against the us constitution that law isn't valid.Sælir eru einfaldir wrote:Wow, that´s really fucked up!maiforpeace wrote: "No religious test is required to run for office..." is in our constitution.
However, Arkansas, Maryland, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas all have wording in their constitutions that you can be disqualified from public office if you deny the existence of a supreme being.![]()
Tennessee, Article 9, Section 2:
No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.Texas, Article 1, Section 4:
No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.
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Re: Muslims win again on 911 - Obama happy!
But does it have to be taken to the Supreme Court for that to be enforced?Twoflower wrote:However in cases where this arises the US Constitution always trumps state constitutions. So if a state has a law in their constitution that goes against the us constitution that law isn't valid.Sælir eru einfaldir wrote:Wow, that´s really fucked up!maiforpeace wrote: "No religious test is required to run for office..." is in our constitution.
However, Arkansas, Maryland, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas all have wording in their constitutions that you can be disqualified from public office if you deny the existence of a supreme being.![]()
Tennessee, Article 9, Section 2:
No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.Texas, Article 1, Section 4:
No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.
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Re: Muslims win again on 911 - Obama happy!
Sometimes, a lot of times the courts at the city, county, or state level are able to take care of it.Pappa wrote:But does it have to be taken to the Supreme Court for that to be enforced?Twoflower wrote:However in cases where this arises the US Constitution always trumps state constitutions. So if a state has a law in their constitution that goes against the us constitution that law isn't valid.Sælir eru einfaldir wrote:maiforpeace wrote: "No religious test is required to run for office..." is in our constitution.
However, Arkansas, Maryland, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas all have wording in their constitutions that you can be disqualified from public office if you deny the existence of a supreme being.![]()
Tennessee, Article 9, Section 2:
No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.Texas, Article 1, Section 4:
No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.
Wow, that´s really fucked up!
I'm wild just like a rock, a stone, a tree
And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I grow, just like a baby breastfeeding
And it's beautiful, that's life

And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I grow, just like a baby breastfeeding
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