True but these two concepts are the most abused you just have to look at the far-right.Gawdzilla wrote:You can do the same with "love", "passion", "desire", "enthusiasm", etc., then.redunderthebed wrote:All kinds because they can be subverted by the powers that be to suppress dissent and promote racism et al.Gawdzilla wrote:What kind of "nationalism" and "patriotism"? We've pointed out that those two words cover a pretty broad spectrum of attitudes.redunderthebed wrote:I dislike nationalism and Patriotism they are divisive and petty. I guess my views on country and my state are benign laid-back parochialism.
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The Pope was today knocked down at the start of Christmas mass by a woman who hopped over the barriers. The woman was said to be, "Mentally unstable."Trolldor wrote:Ahh cardinal Pell. He's like a monkey after a lobotomy and three lines of cocaine.
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So address the abuse, not the word. It's not good to reflexively condemn a word just because some people abuse it. Read this thread.redunderthebed wrote:True but these two concepts are the most abused you just have to look at the far-right.
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Gawdzilla wrote:So address the abuse, not the word. It's not good to reflexively condemn a word just because some people abuse it. Read this thread.redunderthebed wrote:True but these two concepts are the most abused you just have to look at the far-right.

Red's not condemning words there, Gawd.
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Okay, I read a different post than the one he started with. My bad. Again.Charlou wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:So address the abuse, not the word. It's not good to reflexively condemn a word just because some people abuse it. Read this thread.redunderthebed wrote:True but these two concepts are the most abused you just have to look at the far-right.![]()
Red's not condemning words there, Gawd.
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It will never be addressed its better to just get rid of the concept full stop.
The Pope was today knocked down at the start of Christmas mass by a woman who hopped over the barriers. The woman was said to be, "Mentally unstable."Trolldor wrote:Ahh cardinal Pell. He's like a monkey after a lobotomy and three lines of cocaine.
Which is probably why she went unnoticed among a crowd of Christians.
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I, for one, refuse to allow anyone to hijack my language.redunderthebed wrote:It will never be addressed its better to just get rid of the concept full stop.
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No matter how vehemently you insist, you do not have a monopoly on garblish, Gawdzilla.Gawdzilla wrote:I, for one, refuse to allow anyone to hijack my language.redunderthebed wrote:It will never be addressed its better to just get rid of the concept full stop.
Gawdzilla wrote:It's not good to reflexively condemn a word guns christianity just because some people abuse it.

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Mon dieu! Quite true! However, you can have my garblish when you pry from my cold dead lizardy lips.Seraph wrote:No matter how vehemently you insist, you do not have a monopoly on garblish, Gawdzilla.Gawdzilla wrote:I, for one, refuse to allow anyone to hijack my language.redunderthebed wrote:It will never be addressed its better to just get rid of the concept full stop.
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Thanks, but no, thanks. I am the walking, talking garblish generator par excellence.Gawdzilla wrote:you can have my garblish when you pry from my cold dead lizardy lips.
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My Merklish is stronger than your Ozlish.Seraph wrote:Thanks, but no, thanks. I am the walking, talking garblish generator par excellence.Gawdzilla wrote:you can have my garblish when you pry from my cold dead lizardy lips.

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Maybe so, but you better hope you'll never catch my Germlish infection. It's tschust ze dettliest langvish in ze vorld.Gawdzilla wrote:My Merklish is stronger than your Ozlish.Seraph wrote:Thanks, but no, thanks. I am the walking, talking garblish generator par excellence.Gawdzilla wrote:you can have my garblish when you pry from my cold dead lizardy lips.
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Oh, fucking screw it. You're probably just a troll anyways. If not, then by the deities you're an idiot.Toontown wrote:And all of these histrionics because I advised you to keep your ass out of the armed forces and your paws off the constitution.Tails Turrosaki wrote:To quote Daria, "Haaa haaa haaa." If you can read that in her voice, you're a Dariafag.
What the fuck is this neoprog shit? That's a genre of music, not a person.
And what finger pointing? Am I saying you're to blame, or he's to blame? No. I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm just saying that every country is a piece of shit and we need to fix ourselves.
Jeezus frikkin christ. What do you do when mummy won't let you go to the mall?
Uh, don't bother trying to figure the odds. You're clearly not up to it. Sitting there in the lap of unprecedented security and luxury, not having a freaking clue how you got so lucky.Tails Turrosaki wrote: So, not willing to die for their country, but willing to die for their country...That's the risk you're talking about, right? Oh, just because there's a small probability of it makes it ALL better! Yeah, fuck no. If you were to press a button that had a billionth of a chance to destroy the Earth and everything on it, would you press it? I fucking hope not.
Oh. Well, obviously, if it has a downside, shit-can it without further adieu. I had no idea it had a downside.Tails Turrosaki wrote: LOLOLOLOL!!! Are you implying that a democratic republic has no downsides? It's a "superpower"!?!?LOL, U SO FUNNEH
With your generation's mindset, it's probable you'll all get to see what a real downside looks like soon enough. But hey, I've got 7 more years before you reach the age of full irresponsibility. After that, all bets are off. Generation Z will be fucking up like a mountainous horde of fat-ass rubber ducks.

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Tails Turrosaki wrote:To quote Daria, "Haaa haaa haaa." If you can read that in her voice, you're a Dariafag.
Tails, just address the arguments and leave the personal comments out of it, thanks.Tails Turrosaki wrote:Oh, fucking screw it. You're probably just a troll anyways. If not, then by the deities you're an idiot.
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This post is jam packed with aggressive and personal vitriol directed at another member. You're looking at a suspension if this continues, Toontown.Toontown wrote:And all of these histrionics because I advised you to keep your ass out of the armed forces and your paws off the constitution.Tails Turrosaki wrote:To quote Daria, "Haaa haaa haaa." If you can read that in her voice, you're a Dariafag.
What the fuck is this neoprog shit? That's a genre of music, not a person.
And what finger pointing? Am I saying you're to blame, or he's to blame? No. I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm just saying that every country is a piece of shit and we need to fix ourselves.
Jeezus frikkin christ. What do you do when mummy won't let you go to the mall?
Uh, don't bother trying to figure the odds. You're clearly not up to it. Sitting there in the lap of unprecedented security and luxury, not having a freaking clue how you got so lucky.Tails Turrosaki wrote: So, not willing to die for their country, but willing to die for their country...That's the risk you're talking about, right? Oh, just because there's a small probability of it makes it ALL better! Yeah, fuck no. If you were to press a button that had a billionth of a chance to destroy the Earth and everything on it, would you press it? I fucking hope not.
Oh. Well, obviously, if it has a downside, shit-can it without further adieu. I had no idea it had a downside.Tails Turrosaki wrote: LOLOLOLOL!!! Are you implying that a democratic republic has no downsides? It's a "superpower"!?!?LOL, U SO FUNNEH
With your generation's mindset, it's probable you'll all get to see what a real downside looks like soon enough. But hey, I've got 7 more years before you reach the age of full irresponsibility. After that, all bets are off. Generation Z will be fucking up like a mountainous horde of fat-ass rubber ducks.
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