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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by redunderthebed » Thu May 20, 2010 11:31 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
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redunderthebed wrote:I dislike nationalism and Patriotism they are divisive and petty. I guess my views on country and my state are benign laid-back parochialism.
What kind of "nationalism" and "patriotism"? We've pointed out that those two words cover a pretty broad spectrum of attitudes.
All kinds because they can be subverted by the powers that be to suppress dissent and promote racism et al.
You can do the same with "love", "passion", "desire", "enthusiasm", etc., then.
True but these two concepts are the most abused you just have to look at the far-right.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 20, 2010 11:34 am

redunderthebed wrote:True but these two concepts are the most abused you just have to look at the far-right.
So address the abuse, not the word. It's not good to reflexively condemn a word just because some people abuse it. Read this thread.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by charlou » Thu May 20, 2010 1:42 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
redunderthebed wrote:True but these two concepts are the most abused you just have to look at the far-right.
So address the abuse, not the word. It's not good to reflexively condemn a word just because some people abuse it. Read this thread.
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Red's not condemning words there, Gawd.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

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Charlou wrote:
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redunderthebed wrote:True but these two concepts are the most abused you just have to look at the far-right.
So address the abuse, not the word. It's not good to reflexively condemn a word just because some people abuse it. Read this thread.
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Red's not condemning words there, Gawd.
Okay, I read a different post than the one he started with. My bad. Again.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by redunderthebed » Thu May 20, 2010 2:08 pm

It will never be addressed its better to just get rid of the concept full stop.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 20, 2010 2:10 pm

redunderthebed wrote:It will never be addressed its better to just get rid of the concept full stop.
I, for one, refuse to allow anyone to hijack my language.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by Hermit » Thu May 20, 2010 2:30 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
redunderthebed wrote:It will never be addressed its better to just get rid of the concept full stop.
I, for one, refuse to allow anyone to hijack my language.
No matter how vehemently you insist, you do not have a monopoly on garblish, Gawdzilla.

Gawdzilla wrote:It's not good to reflexively condemn a word guns christianity just because some people abuse it.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 20, 2010 2:41 pm

Seraph wrote:
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redunderthebed wrote:It will never be addressed its better to just get rid of the concept full stop.
I, for one, refuse to allow anyone to hijack my language.
No matter how vehemently you insist, you do not have a monopoly on garblish, Gawdzilla.
Mon dieu! Quite true! However, you can have my garblish when you pry from my cold dead lizardy lips.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

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Gawdzilla wrote:you can have my garblish when you pry from my cold dead lizardy lips.
Thanks, but no, thanks. I am the walking, talking garblish generator par excellence.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 20, 2010 4:29 pm

Seraph wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:you can have my garblish when you pry from my cold dead lizardy lips.
Thanks, but no, thanks. I am the walking, talking garblish generator par excellence.
My Merklish is stronger than your Ozlish. :Erasb:
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

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Gawdzilla wrote:
Seraph wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:you can have my garblish when you pry from my cold dead lizardy lips.
Thanks, but no, thanks. I am the walking, talking garblish generator par excellence.
My Merklish is stronger than your Ozlish. :Erasb:
Maybe so, but you better hope you'll never catch my Germlish infection. It's tschust ze dettliest langvish in ze vorld.
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by Tails Turrosaki » Thu May 20, 2010 8:38 pm

Toontown wrote:
Tails Turrosaki wrote:To quote Daria, "Haaa haaa haaa." If you can read that in her voice, you're a Dariafag.
What the fuck is this neoprog shit? That's a genre of music, not a person.
And what finger pointing? Am I saying you're to blame, or he's to blame? No. I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm just saying that every country is a piece of shit and we need to fix ourselves. :hmph:
And all of these histrionics because I advised you to keep your ass out of the armed forces and your paws off the constitution.

Jeezus frikkin christ. What do you do when mummy won't let you go to the mall?
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Uh, don't bother trying to figure the odds. You're clearly not up to it. Sitting there in the lap of unprecedented security and luxury, not having a freaking clue how you got so lucky.
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Oh. Well, obviously, if it has a downside, shit-can it without further adieu. I had no idea it had a downside.

With your generation's mindset, it's probable you'll all get to see what a real downside looks like soon enough. But hey, I've got 7 more years before you reach the age of full irresponsibility. After that, all bets are off. Generation Z will be fucking up like a mountainous horde of fat-ass rubber ducks.
Oh, fucking screw it. You're probably just a troll anyways. If not, then by the deities you're an idiot. :ddpan:
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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by charlou » Fri May 21, 2010 3:17 am

Tails Turrosaki wrote:To quote Daria, "Haaa haaa haaa." If you can read that in her voice, you're a Dariafag.
Tails Turrosaki wrote:Oh, fucking screw it. You're probably just a troll anyways. If not, then by the deities you're an idiot. :ddpan:
Tails, just address the arguments and leave the personal comments out of it, thanks.

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Re: Patriotism and Nationalism

Post by charlou » Fri May 21, 2010 3:26 am

Toontown wrote:
Tails Turrosaki wrote:To quote Daria, "Haaa haaa haaa." If you can read that in her voice, you're a Dariafag.
What the fuck is this neoprog shit? That's a genre of music, not a person.
And what finger pointing? Am I saying you're to blame, or he's to blame? No. I'm not pointing any fingers, I'm just saying that every country is a piece of shit and we need to fix ourselves. :hmph:
And all of these histrionics because I advised you to keep your ass out of the armed forces and your paws off the constitution.

Jeezus frikkin christ. What do you do when mummy won't let you go to the mall?
Tails Turrosaki wrote: So, not willing to die for their country, but willing to die for their country... :ddpan: That's the risk you're talking about, right? Oh, just because there's a small probability of it makes it ALL better! Yeah, fuck no. If you were to press a button that had a billionth of a chance to destroy the Earth and everything on it, would you press it? I fucking hope not.
Uh, don't bother trying to figure the odds. You're clearly not up to it. Sitting there in the lap of unprecedented security and luxury, not having a freaking clue how you got so lucky.
Tails Turrosaki wrote: LOLOLOLOL!!! Are you implying that a democratic republic has no downsides? It's a "superpower"!?!? :funny: LOL, U SO FUNNEH
Oh. Well, obviously, if it has a downside, shit-can it without further adieu. I had no idea it had a downside.

With your generation's mindset, it's probable you'll all get to see what a real downside looks like soon enough. But hey, I've got 7 more years before you reach the age of full irresponsibility. After that, all bets are off. Generation Z will be fucking up like a mountainous horde of fat-ass rubber ducks.
This post is jam packed with aggressive and personal vitriol directed at another member. You're looking at a suspension if this continues, Toontown.
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