It's a bit a of a mess either way - but it looks like Clegg has got them all by the balls. I hope he keeps squeezing.Rum wrote:They still won't have a majority. Nobody knows who the next PM would be (and he/she would be unelected) and both parties got fewer votes than the Tories. Not a happy recipe.
David Miliband anyone.........?
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Feck wrote:Rum wrote:They still won't have a majority. Nobody knows who the next PM would be (and he/she would be unelected) and both parties got fewer votes than the Tories. Not a happy recipe.
David Miliband anyone.........?
One I prefer to a Conservative coalition however!
Oh no does that mean that the SNP members will hold the balance .... Alex Salmond ..... King Maker
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Actually he/she would be our 76th unelected Prime Minister in a row. And a Lib/Lab pact would have 52% of the votes, 5 million more than the Conservatives.Rum wrote:They still won't have a majority. Nobody knows who the next PM would be (and he/she would be unelected) and both parties got fewer votes than the Tories. Not a happy recipe.
David Miliband anyone.........?
One I prefer to a Conservative coalition however!
As for a Tory/Lib coalition. It's a delusion, it would never be stable, they're apples and oranges, there would be constant in-fighting and an election within months.
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Alex Salmond isn't an MP.Feck wrote:Rum wrote:They still won't have a majority. Nobody knows who the next PM would be (and he/she would be unelected) and both parties got fewer votes than the Tories. Not a happy recipe.
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One I prefer to a Conservative coalition however!
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klr wrote:This just in:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/poli ... 672859.stm
The plot shite thickens ...Gordon Brown 'stepping down as Labour leader'
Gordon Brown has said he is stepping down as Labour Party leader.
Mr Brown, prime minister since 2007, said he wanted a successor to be in place by the time of the party's conference in September.
Mr Brown announced his intention to quit in a statement in Downing St in which he also said his party was to start formal talks with the Lib Dems.
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The Conservatives are making a "final offer" to the Lib Dems, promising a referendum on bringing in a different voting system - known as AV - shadow chancellor George Osborne says. Labour had a referendum on AV in the their election manifesto.
The Conservatives are making a "final offer" to the Lib Dems, promising a referendum on bringing in a different voting system - known as AV - shadow chancellor George Osborne says. Labour had a referendum on AV in the their election manifesto.
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Well if that's their final offer, the Lib Dems will probably get a better deal from Labour. Looking at this, Alternative Vote doesn't seem much better than FPTP, and it's nowhere near the Single Transferable Vote system that the Lib Dems want.RuleBritannia wrote:From BBC:
The Conservatives are making a "final offer" to the Lib Dems, promising a referendum on bringing in a different voting system - known as AV - shadow chancellor George Osborne says. Labour had a referendum on AV in the their election manifesto.
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I agree AV is no better than FPTP really. Siding with Labour on the other hand is riskier as they would have no majority and will have to rely on other parties, they'd also be seen as proping up Labour and Brown. But I think it's a risk worth taking and will benefit both the Lib Dems and the people of Britain in the long run.Psychoserenity wrote:Well if that's their final offer, the Lib Dems will probably get a better deal from Labour. Looking at this, Alternative Vote doesn't seem much better than FPTP, and it's nowhere near the Single Transferable Vote system that the Lib Dems want.RuleBritannia wrote:From BBC:
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I can't help thinking whatever they come up with won't last. They are motivated by a desire for power and the desire to get something in place to appease the markets and confidence, but the reality is the parties were there for a reason - i.e. they had differing sets of values.
My take is anything they do will be very short lived. Another election soon may be the only way out.
My take is anything they do will be very short lived. Another election soon may be the only way out.
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As long as we get that referendum on PR before an election.Rum wrote:I can't help thinking whatever they come up with won't last. They are motivated by a desire for power and the desire to get something in place to appease the markets and confidence, but the reality is the parties were there for a reason - i.e. they had differing sets of values.
My take is anything they do will be very short lived. Another election soon may be the only way out.
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Part of me is chuckling at the sight of all these politicians and commentators in the UK trying to take in all these developments. This sort of thing is all a big culture shock to them.
Seriously, I'm still not going to place any bets on the final outcome.

Seriously, I'm still not going to place any bets on the final outcome.

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it's exciting, bit of drama, love it!
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Well, he/she would have been elected by the constituency, and then chosen by another vote in the party room, which is the Westminster system...Rum wrote:They still won't have a majority. Nobody knows who the next PM would be (and he/she would be unelected) and both parties got fewer votes than the Tories. Not a happy recipe.
David Miliband anyone.........?
One I prefer to a Conservative coalition however!
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ficklefiend wrote:it's exciting, bit of drama, love it!


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