Islam and Christian Apologetics

[Blitzkrebs]

I can’t stand Christian apologists who attack Islam. I'm not defending the religion at all here, but how does one deal people who slog Islam for being backward, and then in the same breath endorse a book that praises bashing young children against rocks and demands death for anyone who lights a fire on a Saturday? Or how about when said apologists attack the contradictions in the Qur’an? Or the fucking science? It’s so LOLcat WTF and beyond the reaches of satire.


They need a paralyzing kick in the ass. I have never cited anything from Answering Islam on these grounds (unless to mock them), and never will either. People that slimy just can't be trusted.

Thoughts?

[GenesForLife]

I can’t stand Christian apologists who attack Islam. I'm not defending the religion at all here, but how does one deal people who slog Islam for being backward, and then in the same breath endorse a book that praises bashing young children against rocks and demands death for anyone who lights a fire on a Saturday? Or how about when said apologists attack the contradictions in the Qur’an? Or the fucking science? It’s so LOLcat WTF and beyond the reaches of satire.


They need a paralyzing kick in the ass. I have never cited anything from Answering Islam on these grounds (unless to mock them), and never will either. People that slimy just can't be trusted.

Thoughts?

Intellectual wankery from both religions is of the same kind, I have known my muslim colleagues to take potshots at hindus for worshipping "stones" and deities that don't fit their misconceptions, the next time I run into them their wankery will be called out, I'm an atheist but I find their hypocrisy unbearable (not to say I can stand christian fundies either)
Do not forget that Islam is pretty much another half-arsed attempt to reshape jewish mythology to suit the whims and fancies of some misguided messiah.

Watching the different denominations of deluded abrahamists bicker among themselves is amusing, and as long as they keep bickering among themselves things could be good, because they can do a good job of exposing each other for their lies.

[GenesForLife]

But yeah, that was a real good larf, the Babble does shoot itself in the foot when it claims that "the earth shall not be moved" , "lesser light and greater light" come to mind too, not to mention the ridiculous assertion somewhere (Revelation is it?) that the whole world would be able to watch jeebus descending, which can only happen in case of a flat earth, so, no shit to them Sherlocks...

[Mishakal]

I once was at a debate between a Catholic Priest and a Southern Baptist Preacher and it reminded me about the old question, "Why don't two psychiatrists who bump into each other on the street don't simply burst out laughing?"

They believe in almost all the same crap, what their "debate" amounted to was trying to fit what they both agreed and disagreed with into a logical framework, or else know as fitting a round peg into a square hole.

It would be fun to watch if it wasn't for the fact that so many people take it seriously.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

I once was at a debate between a Catholic Priest and a Southern Baptist Preacher and it reminded me about the old question, "Why don't two psychiatrists who bump into each other on the street don't simply burst out laughing?"

They believe in almost all the same crap, what their "debate" amounted to was trying to fit what they both agreed and disagreed with into a logical framework, or else know as fitting a round peg into a square hole.

That reminds me of a quote by Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket".

Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?

[BlackDog]

hi Blitzkrebs

It's the power of faith really. They somehow think their religion is the real true one. As if YHYWA has somehow failed to reveal Himself to the rest of the world. There is a specific time when people knew of him, a small group of discarded people and the rest of the world went on without knowing who he is and who they are.

This is a problem with every religion. Religious people suffer from tunnel vision. And you'll notice this if you debate with them, you will end on the specifics of their holy book. If they are good debaters they will force to come into their territory. Missing the big point of, first, is there a God? Is it your God? And why on earth is your religion the true one?

In any case, I don't have to worry about Fundamentalist Christians blowing up a plane. Or a club. Or a mall. Maybe an abortion clinic now and then but on the whole I can feel pretty safe. I don't have to worry about Fundamentalists Hindus, or Sikhs.

Islam has been, can be and is an expansionary religion. Christians would expand their religion with missionary and with the sword. But now they do it missionary style. Muslims, do it doggy-style Sorry, Muslims have spread by the sword and to some extent by the word, and are now still trying to spread with the sword and with the word.

The word comes usually from Saudia Arabia wahabi propaganda that they've fueled with the Oil money. The interesting difference between the sword of Chritisantiy and the sword of Islam is that there is no longer a governing body like there still is with Chriitsnatyiy. There is no Vatican church, there are religious schools and terrorist organizations but these hardly a khalipate. Which is a good thing, becaause in the past khalipas have tried to conquer lands. With the Quranic and hadiths backup of the east and weast belong to Allah. Subdue the lands until pay submit. Why God does not do this? Why he delegates this violence to humans? Is because Islam was born in Arabia, by desert dwellers who could only grow with the means of raids. Sometimes with words.

The problem with Islam is a specific one. Unforutantly the All-KNowing and All-Mercifiul God did not extend his love to others and only to a certain group, and a certain man, but he still wishes the entire world submits because he can stand that others worship other (false) gods. He can't stand you having imaginary friends. Than him

Of course not all muslims are dangerous, this would be an insult to the inherent goodness of many people, empathy and reciprocity that we have from nature and that we share with other mammals.

[Nickel]

I can’t stand Christian apologists who attack Islam. I'm not defending the religion at all here, but how does one deal people who slog Islam for being backward, and then in the same breath endorse a book that praises bashing young children against rocks and demands death for anyone who lights a fire on a Saturday? Or how about when said apologists attack the contradictions in the Qur’an? Or the fucking science? It’s so LOLcat WTF and beyond the reaches of satire.


They need a paralyzing kick in the ass. I have never cited anything from Answering Islam on these grounds (unless to mock them), and never will either. People that slimy just can't be trusted.

Thoughts?

Tl;dr - "My god can beat up your god". These are people so certain in their own convictions that they can't see that they're both in the same boat. I recall a video I saw recently in which it was the same, but the other way around - an Islamic official/cleric was talking about building churches in Saudi Arabia, and he said they shouldn't be allowed to do it because Islam is true. Why is Islam true? The Koran says it is. I kind want to ask them "So, what if you're wrong?", but we all know that doesn't usually get anything but a "LALALA IM NOT LISTENING"

[BlackDog]

It's true because it says so in my book

[Blitzkrebs]

"My god can beat up your god". These are people so certain in their own convictions that they can't see that they're both in the same boat. I recall a video I saw recently in which it was the same, but the other way around - an Islamic official/cleric was talking about building churches in Saudi Arabia, and he said they shouldn't be allowed to do it because Islam is true. Why is Islam true? The Koran says it is. I kind want to ask them "So, what if you're wrong?", but we all know that doesn't usually get anything but a "LALALA IM NOT LISTENING"

I'd love to be there. I'd rip him apart with all of the little scientific errors in the Qur'an and make him feel like a sack of shit.