Translation Please
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Translation Please
I saw this poster on the wall of the Episcopal Church where my toastmasters group meets with the following question:
"Considering the fact that Jesus had his doubts, why can't you? "
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Doubts about what?
"Considering the fact that Jesus had his doubts, why can't you? "
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Doubts about what?
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Re: Translation Please
In the Garden of Gethsemane, you ignorant heathen.maiforpeace wrote:I saw this poster on the wall of the Episcopal Church where my toastmasters group meets with the following question:
"Considering the fact that Jesus had his doubts, why can't you? "
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Doubts about what?

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I reckon he wasn't all that keen on the whole being nailed to a plank plan.
"I grow old … I grow old …
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled"
AND MERRY XMAS TO ONE AND All!
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I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled"
AND MERRY XMAS TO ONE AND All!
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That's the plain language way of putting it.Clinton Huxley wrote:I reckon he wasn't all that keen on the whole being nailed to a plank plan.

God has no place within these walls, just like facts have no place within organized religion. - Superintendent Chalmers
It's not up to us to choose which laws we want to obey. If it were, I'd kill everyone who looked at me cock-eyed! - Rex Banner
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The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression. - Gary Larson



Re: Translation Please
How can God have doubts about himself?
Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.
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It's a deep theological issue, and that's no lie. Perhaps you should go back to church to seek enlightenment on this grave matter.Animavore wrote:How can God have doubts about himself?

Either that or just go the pub again.
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Oh Mary, Mungo and Midge, let's not have some kind of Trinitarian-based schism, we have enough on our plate.
"I grow old … I grow old …
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled"
AND MERRY XMAS TO ONE AND All!
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I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled"
AND MERRY XMAS TO ONE AND All!
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Roughly translated it means "It's all a bag of shite"
Hope that helped
Hope that helped
It's a piece of piss to be cowiz, but it's not cowiz to be a piece of piss. Or something like that.
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Re: Translation Please
I figured that much, but it doesn't help.pawiz wrote:Roughly translated it means "It's all a bag of shite"
Hope that helped
He had doubts about dying? He didn't have much of a choice, did he?Clinton Huxley wrote:I reckon he wasn't all that keen on the whole being nailed to a plank plan.
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"So, Dad/Me/HolyGhostChap, lets go through this plan of ours again, just to see if we've got it straight......"maiforpeace wrote:I figured that much, but it doesn't help.pawiz wrote:Roughly translated it means "It's all a bag of shite"
Hope that helped
He had doubts about dying? He didn't have much of a choice, did he?Clinton Huxley wrote:I reckon he wasn't all that keen on the whole being nailed to a plank plan.
"I grow old … I grow old …
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled"
AND MERRY XMAS TO ONE AND All!
http://25kv.co.uk/date_counter.php?date ... 20counting!!![/img-sig]
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled"
AND MERRY XMAS TO ONE AND All!
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Aha. Thanks for clarifying that.Clinton Huxley wrote:"So, Dad/Me/HolyGhostChap, lets go through this plan of ours again, just to see if we've got it straight......"maiforpeace wrote:I figured that much, but it doesn't help.pawiz wrote:Roughly translated it means "It's all a bag of shite"
Hope that helped
He had doubts about dying? He didn't have much of a choice, did he?Clinton Huxley wrote:I reckon he wasn't all that keen on the whole being nailed to a plank plan.

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'eh... It's actually something that discussed a lot among church groups.
Essentially, it's clear Jesus did not doubt his divinity, he also did not doubt "the father". He could have been said to have doubt about the current practices. But his faith was "perfect" so to say. He was, however, constantly tempted. It could be doubts about whether he could overcome those temptations, although him having "perfect faith" would seem to say not... but he knew he would be resurrected.
Maybe the person who wrote that question(which is very poorly worded) forgot to add "seriously? Anyone? I don't know the answer!"
Really, it's all just bullshit, and they don't really know what they are talking about. But the above is what a christian reply might look like.
Essentially, it's clear Jesus did not doubt his divinity, he also did not doubt "the father". He could have been said to have doubt about the current practices. But his faith was "perfect" so to say. He was, however, constantly tempted. It could be doubts about whether he could overcome those temptations, although him having "perfect faith" would seem to say not... but he knew he would be resurrected.
Maybe the person who wrote that question(which is very poorly worded) forgot to add "seriously? Anyone? I don't know the answer!"
Really, it's all just bullshit, and they don't really know what they are talking about. But the above is what a christian reply might look like.
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It actually was a generic poster that came from the Episcopal Church of America or some such organization.Apogee wrote:'eh... It's actually something that discussed a lot among church groups.
Essentially, it's clear Jesus did not doubt his divinity, he also did not doubt "the father". He could have been said to have doubt about the current practices. But his faith was "perfect" so to say. He was, however, constantly tempted. It could be doubts about whether he could overcome those temptations, although him having "perfect faith" would seem to say not... but he knew he would be resurrected.
Maybe the person who wrote that question(which is very poorly worded) forgot to add "seriously? Anyone? I don't know the answer!"
Really, it's all just bullshit, and they don't really know what they are talking about. But the above is what a christian reply might look like.
Atheists have always argued that this world is all that we have, and that our duty is to one another to make the very most and best of it. ~Christopher Hitchens~
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But it makes absolutely zero sense! :/ I cannot possibly believe that anyone can find this credulous in any way. But somehow they do, I don't get it.Apogee wrote:'eh... It's actually something that discussed a lot among church groups.
Essentially, it's clear Jesus did not doubt his divinity, he also did not doubt "the father". He could have been said to have doubt about the current practices. But his faith was "perfect" so to say. He was, however, constantly tempted. It could be doubts about whether he could overcome those temptations, although him having "perfect faith" would seem to say not... but he knew he would be resurrected.
Maybe the person who wrote that question(which is very poorly worded) forgot to add "seriously? Anyone? I don't know the answer!"
Really, it's all just bullshit, and they don't really know what they are talking about. But the above is what a christian reply might look like.
Re: Translation Please
I think it's pretty obvious, actually. To wit: "Jesus AKA Son of God AKA God had doubts about his divinity and so on and so forth, yet he saved us all (well, those who pass certain qualifications anyway). So you, as a mere Christian sinner, can absolutely have doubts about the veracity of the teaching of the church and indeed about the very existence of the divine itself and remain a Christian, and be saved at the end of the day".
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