The Marshmallow Test

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The Marshmallow Test

Post by tattuchu » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:15 pm

This is really cute:



What are your thoughts on this experiment, though?

My reaction was...
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...that the woman presented them with a choice, to eat the one marshmallow now, or wait for two later, but didn't give the poor kids a chance to answer :? So what the fuck were they supposed to do? If they ate the one marshmallow right away, it was seen as a sign of weakness and lack of self-control. Bollocks. If it were me running the experiment, I would praise those kids. Those are the kids who don't like to be fucked with, don't like to be manipulated, reject arbitrary constraints placed upon them, and have the courage strength and presence of mind to be satisfied with one marshmallow and to be able to make that clear decision to make do with just the one and forgo the other.
People think "queue" is just "q" followed by 4 silent letters.

But those letters are not silent.

They're just waiting their turn.

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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by tattuchu » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:30 pm

I just noticed Gawdzilla has an avatar using a still from this vid. Is he that quick at that sort of thing :? Or has this been posted already? Sorry if it's been posted already :oops:
People think "queue" is just "q" followed by 4 silent letters.

But those letters are not silent.

They're just waiting their turn.

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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:32 pm

tattuchu wrote:I just noticed Gawdzilla has an avatar using a still from this vid. Is he that quick at that sort of thing :? Or has this been posted already? Sorry if it's been posted already :oops:
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:33 pm

tattuchu wrote:I just noticed Gawdzilla has an avatar using a still from this vid. Is he that quick at that sort of thing :? Or has this been posted already? Sorry if it's been posted already :oops:
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Feck » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:38 pm

Bad experiment like many used to show at what age children understand concepts etc .
If the researcher had put the two promised mallows in sight the results might have been different .
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:42 pm

Maybe she should put 2 marshmallows on the plate and lace one with poison, but don't tell the kid which one. See if he/she risks eating one. :tea:
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:43 pm

Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Maybe she should put 2 marshmallows on the plate and lace one with poison, but don't tell the kid which one. See if he/she risks eating one. :tea:
Feck's point, I think, is that there's nothing concrete to encourage restraint. The promise of a second marshmallow pales next to the reality of the one in front of them. My avatar girl expresses that, I think.
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Feck » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:47 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Maybe she should put 2 marshmallows on the plate and lace one with poison, but don't tell the kid which one. See if he/she risks eating one. :tea:
Feck's point, I think, is that there's nothing concrete to encourage restraint. The promise of a second marshmallow pales next to the reality of the one in front of them. My avatar girl expresses that, I think.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:53 pm

Feck wrote:
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Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Maybe she should put 2 marshmallows on the plate and lace one with poison, but don't tell the kid which one. See if he/she risks eating one. :tea:
Feck's point, I think, is that there's nothing concrete to encourage restraint. The promise of a second marshmallow pales next to the reality of the one in front of them. My avatar girl expresses that, I think.
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One they can touch, see, smell. One that doesn't exist except as a promise from an adult. :roll:
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:54 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Feck wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Maybe she should put 2 marshmallows on the plate and lace one with poison, but don't tell the kid which one. See if he/she risks eating one. :tea:
Feck's point, I think, is that there's nothing concrete to encourage restraint. The promise of a second marshmallow pales next to the reality of the one in front of them. My avatar girl expresses that, I think.
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One they can touch, see, smell. One that doesn't exist except as a promise from an adult. :roll:
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:56 pm

Deep Sea Isopod wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Feck wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Maybe she should put 2 marshmallows on the plate and lace one with poison, but don't tell the kid which one. See if he/she risks eating one. :tea:
Feck's point, I think, is that there's nothing concrete to encourage restraint. The promise of a second marshmallow pales next to the reality of the one in front of them. My avatar girl expresses that, I think.
:tup:
One they can touch, see, smell. One that doesn't exist except as a promise from an adult. :roll:
Exactly. Kids'll believe what adults tellthem.
Until they learn that's stupid, anyway.
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Feck » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:00 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Feck wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Maybe she should put 2 marshmallows on the plate and lace one with poison, but don't tell the kid which one. See if he/she risks eating one. :tea:
Feck's point, I think, is that there's nothing concrete to encourage restraint. The promise of a second marshmallow pales next to the reality of the one in front of them. My avatar girl expresses that, I think.
:tup:
One they can touch, see, smell. One that doesn't exist except as a promise from an adult. :roll:
Yep the message of Christmas after all is that adults think lying about Santa to young children is funny .Yeah 2 marshmallows............later ....prove it ?
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by tattuchu » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:01 pm

And the woman gives them a proposition and then buggers off before the kids can even respond. The kids are like, "Wait...what? I'm twelve and what is this?" They don't don't know what the fuck's going on. What if their response was, "I don't like marshmallows," or "Oh, I'm not greedy, one is quite enough for me," or "Is this some kind of sick joke?! Can't you see I have a weight problem?!" or, "I don't trust you. I don't believe you'll come back with another. You might be lying, as adults often do, and I don't fancy being played for a fool. How do I know you won't come back empty-handed? How do I know you won't take this one away at the end, and then I'll get nothing? No. No, I'll eat this one now while I have the chance. I won't play you're manipulative little games, so how about you can fuck right off," or even, "How about I slit your fucking fucking throat right now and take all the marshmallows you've got, you miserable fucking cunt?!"
Also, the promise of one more marshmallow after fifteen minutes of waiting hardly seems worth the kids' trouble. Why fucking bother?
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:11 pm

Any really smart kid would eat the marshmallow and then bawl like a motherfucker when told it couldn't have another - turn the manipulation back on the adult!
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Re: The Marshmallow Test

Post by normal » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:38 pm

tattuchu wrote:This is really cute:
My reaction was...
the woman presented them with a choice, to eat the one marshmallow now, or wait for two later, but didn't give the poor kids a chance to answer :? So what the fuck were they supposed to do? If they ate the one marshmallow right away, it was seen as a sign of weakness and lack of self-control. Bollocks. If it were me running the experiment, I would praise those kids.
This test wasn't done originally to test any "weakness" or anything. I think the original test was done to see if the kids managed the concept of getting a reward for an action. If the pre-frontal cortex (I think) of the brain is developed past a certain stage the kid will have the ability to grasp the concept of getting another one if it waits, and the threshhold for waiting will increase. I think this test has been replicated ad nauseum, and kids around a certain age will have the ability to wait when a bigger reward is at the other end.

This video didn't show the whole test, it just gave us an idea of the concept and was made to be cute. Anyway, this might not be an exact replication of the test, just a cute video made on the basis of the actual psychological test.

So, yeah.. Cute kids, and it was fun seing them nibble on it and smell it and be so impatient :tup:
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