Russia invades Ukraine again?

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Post by aufbahrung » Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:21 am

If Moldova is next then the whole thing is about killing NATO and Ukraine merely a distraction and icebreaker for the full superpower conflict.

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Post by Tero » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:43 pm

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If Trump had been re-elected, Ukraine would have been occupied a year ago.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:07 pm

Tero wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:43 pm
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If Trump had been re-elected, Ukraine would have been occupied a year ago.
I don't understand what you mean about Trump.

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Hey crumple, if Putin intended for this to blow up, why didn't he invade when Trump was president?
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Post by Tero » Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:31 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:07 pm
Tero wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:43 pm
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If Trump had been re-elected, Ukraine would have been occupied a year ago.
I don't understand what you mean about Trump.

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Hey crumple, if Putin intended for this to blow up, why didn't he invade when Trump was president?
There was no effort on the part of Trump to hold back Putin. If he had to choose between Ukraine ( did not find dirt on Biden!) and Russia, he would have favored Russia.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:44 pm

Ok, makes sense. --people will point out though that he armed Ukraine..

I just think he's such a mess that anything would have been possible.
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Post by aufbahrung » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:09 am

I'm convinced he wants the maximum explosion to go out on. You are imagining he's got some greater glory in mind beyond setting off a thousand nukes. He's playing with the West like a cat does a mouse, whilst you all know some men can not be bought or reasoned with, you all sadly keep pretending he can. What's his game and what's his price. Might be out of range when he's only a year or two to live and in constant pain, using the pain he's feeling as his policy compass.
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Post by macdoc » Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:23 am

Um Russia has committed 90% of its conventional armed forces to this pissant fight in the Ukraine.....pretty shabby cat you are so frightened of.
Without nukes he doesn't have much left in conventional weapons.
And troop moral seems low and getting worse.....3 days of food FFS.....and unrest at home. Certainly there is a risk of a madman going out but would his military obey him?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wh ... 022-03-02/

https://www.heritage.org/defense/commen ... ar-threats

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Post by Hermit » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:08 am

macdoc wrote:
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Um Russia has committed 90% of its conventional armed forces to this pissant fight in the Ukraine.....he doesn't have much left in conventional weapons.
The Russian Armed Forces have around a million active-duty personnel. Also,
...as of 2017, the Armed Forces received more than 30,000 units of new and modernized weapons and equipment, including more than 50 warships, 1,300 aircraft, over 1,800 drones, 4,700 tanks and armored combat vehicles compared to two warships, 151 aircraft and 217 tanks received in 2007–2011. The Russian army also receives 150-250 aircraft per year and over 300 short-range UAVs.
Russia has committed 90% of that lot, you say?

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Post by macdoc » Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:30 am

Conventional weapons. Warships hardly count but I think the quote was for 90% of the forces Putin had designated for this "special effort"
Indicating not a lot of reserve for in the immediate vicinity for conventional warefare.
However, US intelligence believes that the bulk of the Russian forces around Ukraine – which depending on the accuracy of estimates represent some 50-60% of the total strength of the Russian Ground Forces – will not be involved in the initial phases of the attack. The US stated that Russia's invasion is designed to decapitate Ukraine's government: one of the three main axes of assault is directed at the capital Kyiv, a senior US defense official said.

"It is our assessment that they have every intention of basically decapitating the government and installing their own method of governance, which would explain these early moves.”
https://en.as.com/en/2022/02/24/latest_ ... 94320.html

That was Feb 22 ...the fast takeover has failed and oddly Russia has not got clear air superiority.
No significant Russian movement after 11 days of war on ...https://www.militarytimes.com › ukraine › 2022/03/06
22 hours ago — Though Russia has now committed about 95% of the combat power it amassed along ... The long convoy of Russian troops and vehicles headed south to Kyiv
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:40 am

Doesn't matter. It's not like Russia is fighting a war on multiple fronts and its capacity far outstrips Ukraine's.

Russia now goading NATO and the West with indiscriminate bombing of residential areas.
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Post by aufbahrung » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:15 am

Might be they are staying outside Kyiv cos the plan is to nuke it in a display of shock'n'awe? Putin might like the idea of a Greater Russia on a map but doesn't seem so bothered about people living there for the new few thousand years. Why should he care? He won't be around.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:42 pm

No. They're staying out of Kyiv because they're still bombing and it's bad for moral to bomb your own troops. When they've reduced cover and adequately traumatised the population they'll move in, facing less resistance and apatite for an urban guerilla resurgence. They've bombed every major road and railway line out of Kyiv so the population is trapped. They've used the same tactics the US/UK used in Iraq.
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Post by Tero » Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:49 pm

Denazification of Ukraine carried out by Russian nazi
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Post by Tero » Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:56 pm

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Russia has said it will open new humanitarian corridors to allow civilians to evacuate.

Evacuation routes published by Russia’s RIA Novosti news agency show civilians will be able to leave to Russia and Belarus.

The corridor from Kyiv will lead to Russian ally Belarus, and civilians from Kharkiv will only have a corridor leading to Russia.

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