Russia invades Ukraine again?

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Post by aufbahrung » Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:21 pm

Given conventional forces are enough to crush Ukraine the only reason for Putin to put his nukes on high alert is NATO/USA. Which might be the soul objective of the exercise. America gonna get Pearl Harboured again?
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Post by laklak » Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:26 pm

If we do then either 1) nothing happens because we're too shit scared of Vlad to respond or 2) Sayonara Humans. See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya!

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Post by macdoc » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:09 pm

You'd be better far at sea in prime fishing grounds ....

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Post by Hermit » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:27 pm

aufbahrung wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:21 pm
Given conventional forces are enough to crush Ukraine the only reason for Putin to put his nukes on high alert is NATO/USA. Which might be the soul objective of the exercise. America gonna get Pearl Harboured again?
If Putin intended to 'Pearl Harbour' the US he would not have made it publicly known that he has 'put his nukes on high alert'.
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Post by aufbahrung » Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:14 pm

Hermit wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:27 pm
aufbahrung wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:21 pm
Given conventional forces are enough to crush Ukraine the only reason for Putin to put his nukes on high alert is NATO/USA. Which might be the soul objective of the exercise. America gonna get Pearl Harboured again?
If Putin intended to 'Pearl Harbour' the US he would not have made it publicly known that he has 'put his nukes on high alert'.
He's using reverse logic. No one expected the invasion of Ukraine precisely because he built his forces up in plain sight.
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Post by Hermit » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:27 pm

aufbahrung wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:14 pm
No one expected the invasion of Ukraine precisely because he built his forces up in plain sight.
Meanwhile, back in the real world...
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Post by aufbahrung » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:30 pm

Hermit wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:27 pm
aufbahrung wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:14 pm
No one expected the invasion of Ukraine precisely because he built his forces up in plain sight.
Meanwhile, back in the real world...
....just because he's practicing firing his nukes doesn't mean he won't. Depends on what mood he's in...
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Post by Tero » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:22 pm

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Post by macdoc » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:30 pm

While the SWIFT move will hinder Russian banks from communicating with international peers, analysts say limiting the use of more than US$630 billion in international reserves could prove even costlier for Russia.

Sergey Aleksashenko, a former deputy chairman of the Russian central bank who now lives in the United States, said that Russia's national wealth fund would effectively disappear.

"(President Vladimir) Putin and (former Finance Minister Alexei) Kudrin built it up for years, thinking about a major war," he said. "War has come, and there is no money."
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/r ... ne-2524211
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by laklak » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:11 pm

I've been watching the kiddies on reddit shitting themselves about possible nuclear war. Toughen up, bitches, we ain't even barely begun to brinkmanship.

Welcome to Cold War II, y'all! Pull up a fallout shelter and stay a while. Coming to an elementary school near you - Atomic Bomb Drills! When you hear the sirens, get under your desk. Remember - Duck And Cover! That 1/2 inch of plywood will absolutely protect you from 50 megatons of Ruskie thermonuclear hell detonating 5000 feet over your head! Trust us!
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Post by JimC » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:19 pm

macdoc wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:30 pm
While the SWIFT move will hinder Russian banks from communicating with international peers, analysts say limiting the use of more than US$630 billion in international reserves could prove even costlier for Russia.

Sergey Aleksashenko, a former deputy chairman of the Russian central bank who now lives in the United States, said that Russia's national wealth fund would effectively disappear.

"(President Vladimir) Putin and (former Finance Minister Alexei) Kudrin built it up for years, thinking about a major war," he said. "War has come, and there is no money."
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/r ... ne-2524211
Has Switzerland committed to restricting Russian banking?

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by macdoc » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:53 pm

Not sure they can do much - they don't own SWIFT.
They are in bad odour anyways.

However
Swiss Pledge No New Business For Russians Sanctioned by EU
https://www.bloomberg.com › news › articles › switzerl...
2 days ago — ... Russia to be circumvented locally by prohibiting targeted Russian individuals or companies from opening new accounts with Swiss banks.
Not sure about existing clients
https://www.firstpost.com/world/sanctio ... 13271.html
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:00 am

Tero wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:22 pm
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Maga-Mike on Foxnews thinks the only solution is to take out Russia now.
Yeah, talking about somebody with more IQ than his shoe size, is he?
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:02 am

laklak wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:11 pm
I've been watching the kiddies on reddit shitting themselves about possible nuclear war. Toughen up, bitches, we ain't even barely begun to brinkmanship.

Welcome to Cold War II, y'all! Pull up a fallout shelter and stay a while. Coming to an elementary school near you - Atomic Bomb Drills! When you hear the sirens, get under your desk. Remember - Duck And Cover! That 1/2 inch of plywood will absolutely protect you from 50 megatons of Ruskie thermonuclear hell detonating 5000 feet over your head! Trust us!
Blast it, I live in the middle of big city, there's no way I can build a fallout shelter, let alone one big enough to contain my library... and I'll need that library because if I need the shelter, odds are I won't have net access anymore...
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