"Alt-right" Still Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon May 10, 2021 5:34 pm

I asked if you think manly white identity is under threat because you defend the people who do. I'm sorry if you are offended by the question.
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I asked if you think manly white identity is under threat because you defend the people who do. I'm sorry if you are offended by the question.
Ah, my mistake.

I thought you were calling ME white. Sorry about that.

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Post by JimC » Mon May 10, 2021 9:17 pm

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Yes, only the right is terrible.

At least that's what I learned from the establishment.

The left doesn't do the same gross shit, and antifa is only an idea, not a violent political group supported by governments who repeat that it is not a group, only an idea.

Matching shields, uniforms, tactics and regular vandalism, but at least they are only an idea.
Firstly, to give the lie to your sarcastic claim that progressives think that "only the right is terrible" it is well known and accepted that many segments of the left in the past were violent monsters, who were sure that the ends justified any means whatsoever, and who morphed with frightening ease into totalitarian states.

Secondly, some left-anarchist groups in recent times have been irresponsibly violent. I'm thinking in particular of the anti-globalism protestors, who seemed to actively enjoy violent property destruction for its own sake.

Thirdly, antifa is largely a reactive force, who deploy as a counterweight to neo-Nazi rallies. They too are prone to excess violence at times, but largely against their alt-right street opponents rather than anyone else.

Fourthly, tell me (with evidence) which governments support antifa...
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Post by Cunt » Mon May 10, 2021 10:37 pm

Antifa is reactive?

Portland is perhaps the most progressive city, in the most progressive country on earth.

Who exactly are they reacting to there?
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon May 10, 2021 11:51 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 3:24 pm
Yes, only the right is terrible.

At least that's what I learned from the establishment.

The left doesn't do the same gross shit, and antifa is only an idea, not a violent political group supported by governments who repeat that it is not a group, only an idea.

Matching shields, uniforms, tactics and regular vandalism, but at least they are only an idea.
Who says Antifa isn't a group?
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Post by Cunt » Tue May 11, 2021 3:16 am

Some fucking idiots, obviously.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-antif ... 49929.html
Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden defended far-left anarchist movement Antifa as “an idea, not an organization” and said white supremacists pose a greater danger to the country during the first presidential debate on Tuesday night.
Also, some within antifa who find the idea useful.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 11, 2021 3:34 am

It's clearly a group. And a necessary one at that.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 11, 2021 4:37 am

But when you think about it, aren't we all Antifa? We may come into conflict with fascists here and there over this and that, but when we fight the real winner is the friends we made along the way.
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Post by Hermit » Tue May 11, 2021 8:25 am

Cunt wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 3:16 am
Some fucking idiots, obviously.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-antif ... 49929.html
Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden defended far-left anarchist movement Antifa as “an idea, not an organization” and said white supremacists pose a greater danger to the country during the first presidential debate on Tuesday night.
Also, some within antifa who find the idea useful.
Nice piece of quote mining the article. Biden was quoting Chris Wray, a Republican, who Trump appointed as the Director of the FBI three years earlier after he sacked James Comey. During a House Homeland Security Hearing the director said: "We look at Antifa as more of an ideology or a movement than an organization."
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Post by NineBerry » Tue May 11, 2021 8:34 am

Antifa is a group like runners are a group.

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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 11, 2021 12:04 pm

Anti-fascists (like all of us here except for Cunt) are a group like runners are a group. But Antifa are an organised group. You go to a protest and they are there under the flag, handing out literature.
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Post by NineBerry » Tue May 11, 2021 12:29 pm

No, that's not true. There's not one organization. There's local organized groups that call themselves Antifa, but there is no national or international structure. Many of these local organizations follow conflicting ideologies. Some are even enemies with each other. Most people participating in Antifa are not organized.

Antifa is a group like runners are a group. Just because Marathons are organized events doesn't make runners an organization.

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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 11, 2021 12:31 pm

NineBerry wrote:
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No, that's not true. There's not one organization. There's local organized groups that call themselves Antifa, but there is no national or international structure. Many of these local organizations follow conflicting ideologies.
So there's multiple Antifa groups. Not that I've seen any evidence of that. They all march together under the one flag at protests I've been to. How many protests have you been to where Antifa has been present?
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Post by Tero » Tue May 11, 2021 1:23 pm

that's all wrong
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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue May 11, 2021 1:38 pm

:lol: --poor dogs, they're definitely left-leaning and would be unhappy to learn they've been likened to the US right.
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