"Alt-right" Still Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.

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Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:13 am

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Having a good family seems a privilege to me...
I'd call it 'luck', as in good luck. 'Privilege' tends to have too negative a connotation. The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines 'privilege' as a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, which is not necessarily negative, but it also defines the word as "a prerogative especially such a right or immunity attached specifically to a position or an office", which is.
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Post by JimC » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:18 am

To me, 'privilege' has an aura of undeserved fortune, gained without effort...
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:37 am

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To me, 'privilege' has an aura of undeserved fortune, gained without effort...
Technically, that is what the accident of birth can give you. I, for one, am keenly aware of what advantages being born in an affluent democracy and a solidly middle class family has given me later in life.

I do agree that in this case 'privilege' is not the appropriate word to use. 'Luck' would be more appropriate, or our member from Yellowknife might have said to NineBerry something like "Fate has been kind to you".
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Post by Cunt » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:39 am

Maybe. Or maybe you don't value family as highly as I do.
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I value family over almost every other 'privilege', for what makes a difference in a kids life.

It's reasonable to disagree, of course, but in Canada, people who wouldn't think of being racist, are vigorously and openly classist. It's why so many put their kids into exclusive programs.
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Maybe. Or maybe you don't value family as highly as I do.
Which part of "I, for one, am keenly aware of what advantages being born in an affluent democracy and a solidly middle class family has given me later in life" do you have comprehension problems with? Or don't you understand what I mean with "'Privilege' tends to have too negative a connotation."?
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Post by Cunt » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:12 am

That negative connotation sounds like a personal problem.

I still see most other 'privileges' as being worth a lot less than good family. See it anyway you like, but I'd have a tough time naming some characteristic I would rank higher in importance.
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Cunt wrote:I value family over almost every other 'privilege', for what makes a difference in a kids life.

It's reasonable to disagree, of course, but in Canada, people who wouldn't think of being racist, are vigorously and openly classist. It's why so many put their kids into exclusive programs.
Having a family isn't "privilege". It's a thing that is shared between all classes in society.
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That negative connotation sounds like a personal problem.
Nothing personal. It's in the Merriam Webster dictionary. "a prerogative especially such a right or immunity attached specifically to a position or an office". Also in the Cambridge dictionary: "an advantage that only one person or group of people has, usually because of their position or because they are rich". No surprises there, considering its etymology: Latin privilegium ‘bill or law affecting an individual’, from privus ‘private’ + lex, leg- ‘law’.
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Cunt wrote:I value family over almost every other 'privilege', for what makes a difference in a kids life.

It's reasonable to disagree, of course, but in Canada, people who wouldn't think of being racist, are vigorously and openly classist. It's why so many put their kids into exclusive programs.
Having a family isn't "privilege". It's a thing that is shared between all classes in society.
You are very lucky to be in a position to think so. Hug your family.
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You think the poor or the disadvantaged in society don't value family? Stop speaking nonsense.
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You think the poor or the disadvantaged in society don't value family? Stop speaking nonsense.
I think having good family predicts a lot of 'advantage', and being born into a broken family predicts a lot of 'disadvantage'.
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Cunt wrote:
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pErvinalia wrote:
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You think the poor or the disadvantaged in society don't value family? Stop speaking nonsense.
I think having good family predicts a lot of 'advantage', and being born into a broken family predicts a lot of 'disadvantage'.
Tell someone who disagrees with that.

Also, nice you dropped the word 'privilege' at last. :tup:
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You think the poor or the disadvantaged in society don't value family? Stop speaking nonsense.
I think having good family predicts a lot of 'advantage', and being born into a broken family predicts a lot of 'disadvantage'.
Sure, but the quote of yours I initially responded to didn't distinguish between good and bad families.
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Hermit wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:12 am
Cunt wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:05 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:50 am
You think the poor or the disadvantaged in society don't value family? Stop speaking nonsense.
I think having good family predicts a lot of 'advantage', and being born into a broken family predicts a lot of 'disadvantage'.
Tell someone who disagrees with that.

Also, nice you dropped the word 'privilege' at last. :tup:
It's a privilege to watch language policed. I wonder if it is a family tradition...
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