Where the fuck are you, Ani?

The same as the EU: the negotiated deal is the only basis for an orderly divorce, one in which the UK effectively remains in the EU Customs Union and adheres to significant portion of the Single Market until, that is, some other solution to prevent a hard border between NI and Eire can be agreed.
Or could it be that in 2014 it was better to remain a part of the UK? That circumstances have changed in unforeseen ways since then?Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:12 amI just keep thinking about Scotland, and how obvious it was to everyone that leaving would be bad, and how wrong they'll all be now despite the best arguments, and the experts, and the evidence.
They must feel absolutely hoodwinked by the little fuckers in England.
There's a palpable sense of non-English identity in Scotland and I think the SNP have done well to piggyback the anti-Brexit sentiment here, but at the same time Scotland is massively subsidised by Westminster - to the tune of c.£2000 per person per annum more in public spending than South of the border. In a post Brexit UK I think a vote for an independent Scotland would be one act of collective self-harm piled on top of another.Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:44 amOr could it be that in 2014 it was better to remain a part of the UK? That circumstances have changed in unforeseen ways since then?Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:12 amI just keep thinking about Scotland, and how obvious it was to everyone that leaving would be bad, and how wrong they'll all be now despite the best arguments, and the experts, and the evidence.
They must feel absolutely hoodwinked by the little fuckers in England.
Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:44 amOr could it be that in 2014 it was better to remain a part of the UK? That circumstances have changed in unforeseen ways since then?Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:12 amI just keep thinking about Scotland, and how obvious it was to everyone that leaving would be bad, and how wrong they'll all be now despite the best arguments, and the experts, and the evidence.
They must feel absolutely hoodwinked by the little fuckers in England.
Yes, well, Scotland was an entirely separate country until the death of Elizabeth I in 1603 spelt the end of the Tudor dynasty in England. The best qualified successor to the English throne in terms of bloodlines was James Stuart, aka King James VI of Scotland. He became James I, King of England by virtue of being the great-grandson of Margaret Tudor, who in turn was Henry VIII's elder sister.Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:25 amThere's a palpable sense of non-English identity in Scotland and I think the SNP have done well to piggyback the anti-Brexit sentiment here, but at the same time Scotland is massively subsidised by Westminster - to the tune of c.£2000 per person per annum more in public spending than South of the border. In a post Brexit UK I think a vote for an independent Scotland would be one act of collective self-harm piled on top of another.Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:44 amOr could it be that in 2014 it was better to remain a part of the UK? That circumstances have changed in unforeseen ways since then?Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:12 amI just keep thinking about Scotland, and how obvious it was to everyone that leaving would be bad, and how wrong they'll all be now despite the best arguments, and the experts, and the evidence.
They must feel absolutely hoodwinked by the little fuckers in England.
Correction: It seems obvious to some Scots that they were "absolutely hoodwinked by the little fuckers in England". Similar arguments are being made by several dozen active separatist movements in Europe. they all feel hard done by. Good luck to all of them with their struggles to escape the clutches of their oppressors. Especially the Bavarians. I've mentioned it before, and I'll say it again: Bavarians are the missing link between Austrians and humans. Separatist Scots emulate them.Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:56 amHermit wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:44 amOr could it be that in 2014 it was better to remain a part of the UK? That circumstances have changed in unforeseen ways since then?Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:12 amI just keep thinking about Scotland, and how obvious it was to everyone that leaving would be bad, and how wrong they'll all be now despite the best arguments, and the experts, and the evidence.
They must feel absolutely hoodwinked by the little fuckers in England.Sure. Except I remember their argument, at least one of them being to leave so as not to be at the mercy of the little fuckers in England.
This seems to be a direct result of being at the mercy of the little fuckers.
I'm not sure if the small Scottish landholders and peons suffered any more of those than their English counterparts.Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:42 amI think the enclosures and clearances played a significant role in forming the Scots psyche, expressed as a casual loathing of the English rhat is still quite prevalent in many aspects of popular and political culture.
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