All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

[Cunt]

I'll decide what my responsibilities are, not you.

Of course, it's always up to the individual, how much responsibility they are willing to take on.
Tell me JimC, if your security forces are not your responsibility, who's responsibility then? Your parents? Your kids? Your elected officials?

I avoid lots of my responsibilities, but I can usually admit when I'm doing it.

Basically, fuck off.

I think maybe Scot is right when he says you are simply a troll. You seem to be on the forum to find ways to irritate people.

Do you actually understand how political and legal structures operate? Do you have a clear idea what individual responsibility means in nations with millions of people?

We do what we can, and most of us don't give a shit about the delusional musings of a right-wing Canadian doper.

That's kind of you to say.

But I do understand. I understand that every voter takes on some of the responsibility for the governance. Soldiers do in a different way.

It's not 'full responsibility', but I don't mind admitting that my country is maintained in a civilized way because my 'forces' do some violent interventions on my behalf.

I understand your not liking it, but I guess I didn't think it was all that controversial.

[Sean Hayden]

Is it possible that you've just greatly overestimated your importance, and therefore see yourself as playing a more critical role in your country than you actually do?

[Cunt]

Is it possible that you've just greatly overestimated your importance, and therefore see yourself as playing a more critical role in your country than you actually do?

No, in my case I'm (roughly) 1/17,559,353 (that's apparently the number of voters who turned out for Canada last time)

I don't think it's 'all my fault', but I'm not without responsibility.

That is just my responsibility via the single issue of voting, by the way.

[pErvinalia]

Has anyone claimed they are without responsibility? In other words, what the fuck are you going on about?

[Cunt]

Some American Obama voter claimed they weren't responsible for Obamas drone strikes.

I know he is responsible for them because moments later, he was enjoying having voted for the guy who reduced the detainees at Guatanomo.

But this should be about Trump, so maybe I should have roasted him about that, instead.

[Sean Hayden]

Yes, I'm not responsible for drone strikes or gitmo.

I'm still waiting to find out how I am. Perhaps someone who agrees with Cunt but who's got more experience can explain it.

[Cunt]

Yes, I'm not responsible

I understand.

It's up to you, as it is for everyone.

[Sean Hayden]

I know bin Laden thought I was responsible, but he thought a lot of crazy shit.

There's probably a liberal academic who thinks I am too. I'd like to read their arguments.

[Sean Hayden]

Yes, I'm not responsible

I understand.

It's up to you, as it is for everyone.

Yeah, I get it Cunt. You're good at starting an argument. But when it comes to supporting it you're not going to provide much in the way of reasoning or evidence.

[JimC]

Yes, I'm not responsible

I understand.

It's up to you, as it is for everyone.

Yeah, I get it Cunt. You're good at starting an argument. But when it comes to supporting it you're not going to provide much in the way of reasoning or evidence.

[Cunt]

If you don't want to accept responsibility for the voting choices you make, why bother with having such a low opinion of those who would vote against your side?

I mean, it isn't their responsibility that Trump is in charge, their support doesn't give him license to shut the government down.

Or does it?

[JimC]

Taking responsibility for having voted for a given candidate and/or party is straightforward in one sense, but is does not entail taking responsibility for every single action of a government, whether you voted for them or not. Responsibility is a personal thing, and I'll make my own decisions about it with zero reference to your insinuations. Worry about your own responsibilities, and don't poke your fucking nose into other's choices.

[Cunt]

If someone is discussing their choices on a chat forum, then I am hardly 'poking my fucking nose' into anything.

We are responsible for the oil which is dragged out of the ground, because we are using plastics made from it. I KNOW you understand it, because you have expressed some big fucking steps to address your pesonal responsibility. (you've done more than I have)

We are responsible for who we vote for, the choices we support, and bashing on republican voters can give you a good example of how strongly most people agree with me on that score.

[pErvinalia]

[Cunt]

The muscleheads sound a lot smarter than you do.

Do your research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4O3ROg7O_M