Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

[Forty Two]

He's left in the North American sense. lol. You know, fascist. Compared to the civilized world, being on the left in the US is about as left as Mussolini.

Here, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are on the left. But, in any civilized country, they'd be considered Nazis.

[Tero]

The bigger questions are why they want medieval defence systems in 2018 and why they don't care about migrating animals and other environmental factors.

France has a border wall with Calais.

Peace Wall in Northern Ireland


The EU has built 1,000 KM of border walls - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 24706.html

European Union states have built over 1,000km of border walls since the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, a new study into Fortress Europe has found.

Migration researchers have quantified the continent’s anti-immigrant infrastructure and found that the EU has gone from just two walls in the 1990s to 15 by 2017.

Ten out of 28 member states stretching from Spain to Latvia have now built such border walls, with a sharp increase during the 2015 migration panic, when seven new barriers were erected.

And you don't have 60,000 migrants a month now pouring over your fucking borders. Go bitch about your own fucking walls.

Do you folks even care what goes on in your own countries? Or, is it all fine if it's what you folks do, and if it's in the US you fucking gripe incessantly about it? Fuck off!

The Trump wall will not stop 60 000 migrants. Almost none go through the desert that has no roads. Poor planning. Where is the budget proposal and cost effectiveness study? Powepoint? We reject the sketchy plan.

It was nothing but a symbol dreamed up by Bannon and some other dude to fire up Trump and his white trash.

[pErvinalia]

It worked for 42, it seems.

[Tero]

I can just see him with patriotic suspenders and Trump hat at a rally.

[Seabass]

I can just see him with patriotic suspenders

[Seabass]

Another Trump "accomplishment"! Making us more safe and secure by making us less safe and less secure!

Partial government shutdown forces agencies like FDA, FTC to halt operations

[Cunt]

That IS funny. I guess we'll see just how valuable they are.

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[Sean Hayden]

Why do you want a wall anyway, because Trump promised one?

Border Patrol agents apprehended 27,518 members of family units in December, the highest monthly total on record.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 523034002/ That's contributing to the more than 60,000 total migrants apprehended. And, that's not mentioning the ones that made it through.

That's a fairly big problem, and it's a growing problem as the numbers are increasing. Whether you want to call it a crisis or not, it's a big problem.

Since September, smugglers responsible for moving people from Central America to the U.S. have begun holding migrants on the south side of the border then moving large groups of 100 to 300 people at a time over the border where there is no barrier.

More than 51,000 people were caught illegally entering the United States from Mexico in November, the highest number recorded since Trump took office almost two years ago.

Half of those — 25,172 — were families. That figure is nearly four times more than the 7,000 families apprehended just one year earlier.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... s-official

“Smugglers and traffickers know our loopholes well. The lack of legal tools creates pull factors that invite families to cross the border, because they know upon apprehension we will be required by courts to release them into the interior of our country," DHS spokeswoman Katie Waldman said in a statement.

The continued surge also poses a problem for Border Patrol stations, which lack the capacity to hold more than a few dozen illegal immigrants at once while they are processed.

Massive groups continue to cross the border into remote parts of Arizona and New Mexico.

In an incident earlier this month, three agents found a group of 163 people wandering southern New Mexico. One of the children in that group died hours after being taken into federal custody.

Homan, who retired in June, wants changes to judicial rulings, which currently state families cannot be held more than 20 days. He blamed the government's inability to hold people until their asylum cases are decided for the current surge of migrants headed for the U.S.

The Flores settlement agreement and Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act mandate that both families and unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada cannot be turned away or arrested if they illegally enter the country and must be permitted to apply for asylum.

The majority of families and children apprehended are released from federal custody and told to show up for immigration hearings on their asylum requests, but the majority do not show and disappear into the country. About 4 in 5 of those asylum cases are denied because they do not meet asylum standards.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... rs-border/ Tuberculosis, flu, infections rampant as the number of sick migrants surge at border

Border authorities are referring 50 people a day for urgent medical care, including tuberculosis, flu and even pregnant women about to give birth, a top official said Monday, saying it’s unlike anything they’ve ever seen before.

Most of those in need of care are children, and a staggering 28 percent are under age 5, having been dragged along for the trip by parents who in many cases are hoping to use the children as a shield against speedy deportation from the U.S.

CBP Commissioner Kevin McAleenan said most of those needing help were ill when they arrived at the border, and some appear to have made the initial decision to leave even while ailing.

“Many were ill before they departed their homes,” the commissioner said. “We’re talking about cases of pneumonia, tuberculosis, parasites. These are not things that developed urgently in a matter of days.”

Agents have spotted a new trend in the traffic from Central America to the U.S., with smuggling organizations using commercial buses to get people through the journey in less than a week. That’s far faster than the 25 to 30 days it takes most migrants who walk or take a mixture of transportation to get from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras through Mexico and to the border.

Homeland Security officials say families released rarely show up for deportations. About one-third of them cut off ankle bracelets almost immediately after they’re released, authorities say.

“It’s no secret that we are seeing an increase of family units and unaccompanied aliens minors as a direct result of the Ninth Circuit’s Flores Settlement Agreement and the 2008 [Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act] — these are clear gaps in U.S. law that smugglers and traffickers are taking advantage of,” said Katie Waldman, a Homeland Security spokeswoman.

Investigations into both December deaths are ongoing and final medical evaluations have not been publicly detailed.

But border illnesses are nothing new.

During the 2014 surge of Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) authorities reported massive chickenpox and other communicable disease outbreaks.

The numbers of children crossing now exceed that previous surge, with 22,000 children nabbed at the border in December, out of about 60,000 total immigrants who were either caught sneaking in, or were encountered at border crossings.

Since Dec. 22 there have been 450 medical cases that needed treatment, including flu, parasites, blood infections, abscesses, tuberculosis and pneumonia, Mr. McAleenan said.

Part of the surge could be that the government is looking more closely at those in its custody. Where before agents deferred to parents on whether their children needed care, the two recent deaths suggest parents can’t be trusted to know dangers or admit to them.

Every child in CBP custody was given a new medical check last week, including taking vital signs. Medical pros from the Coast Guard and the Public Health Service are going to be on site moving forward, the government says.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has also been roped into duty to look at the infectious diseases, with U.S. officials saying they think the shelters where migrants stage in Mexico before crossing the border could be an incubator.

So, let's work to sort their shit out. What's a wall going to do for people with TB, people being trafficked, or gunned down by cartels?

Why do we always have to go with the wrong solution first? You must know a wall isn't going to be what ultimately solves these problems.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Under the Obama-era Family Case Management Program for family groups seeking asylum at the southern border, there was a 100 percent attendance record at court hearings after release. Trump ended that program.

[Animavore]

The art of the deal.

“BYE-BYE”: TRUMP THROWS A FIT AFTER PELOSI TELLS HIM NO

Today is the 19th day of the government shutdown. If it drags on much longer, the U.S. is at risk of losing its triple-A rating, which could increase borrowing costs and put a chill on the economy. At present, 800,000 federal employees are either furloughed or being forced to work without pay, including T.S.A. agents and the Secret Service. Farmers are struggling to get the subsidies they were promised to offset the damage done by the president‘s trade war. Financial-fraud investigations have “ground to a halt.” Human shit and garbage have piled up in national parks. Speaking of shit, food inspections by the F.D.A. have been curtailed, including inspections of food considered “high risk,” raising the possibility of E. Coli and salmonella outbreaks. At the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, 1,523 of 3,531 employees “are considered non-essential,” while D.H.S.’s Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction Office is reportedly two-thirds empty.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01 ... A9Fx7Yx4PQ


Trump doesn't care for the lives of people under his employment. They should make him do that Undercover Boss thing.

[Scot Dutchy]

He is now proving how big a man child he is:

Government shutdown - live updates: Trump excoriated by Pelosi after storming out of meeting, as Democrat tells him workers 'can't just ask their father for more money'

Opposition 'unwilling to even negotiate', Mike Pence complains

Donald Trump is to visit the US-Mexico frontier on Thursday just a day after storming out of a meeting with Democrats over funding for his long-promised border wall.

Chuck Schumer, the top Democrat in the Senate, accused the president of throwing a “temper tantrum” after he and House speaker Nancy Pelosi said they would not support funding specifically for the barrier. Mike Pence, the vice president, defended his boss by saying that “I don’t recall him ever raising his voice”; Mr Schumer and Ms Pelosi were “unwilling to even negotiate”, he added.

Mr Trump is due to visit McAllen, Texas, during his border trip when he will see a patrol station and a section of the frontier. Meanwhile, nine of 15 cabinet-level government departments remain unfunded and hundreds of thousands of federal employees are on unpaid leave or working without pay.

A day earlier:

A quick recap of Nancy Pelosi's attack line from yesterday.

The House speaker said Mr Trump had "stomped" out of their meeting, adding in a statement: "In a matter of hours, or just a few days, many people – federal workers – will not be receiving their paychecks, and what that means in their lives is tragic in terms of their credit rating, paying their mortgage, paying their rent, paying their car payment, paying their children’s tuition and the rest.

"The president seems to be insensitive to that. He thinks maybe they could just ask their father for more money, but they can’t."

Mr Trump has previously said that he "can relate" to people struggling without pay.

"I’m sure that the people that are on the receiving end will make adjustments, they always do,” he said at the weekend. "People understand exactly what’s going on. But many of those people that won’t be receiving a paycheck, many of those people agree 100 per cent with what I’m doing."

Not all people have millionaire fathers. He is not in touch with reality.

[Tero]

Trump's team had over 100 contacts with Russian-linked officials, report shows
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 530829002/

[Forty Two]

So, let's work to sort their shit out. What's a wall going to do for people with TB, people being trafficked, or gunned down by cartels?

Why do we always have to go with the wrong solution first? You must know a wall isn't going to be what ultimately solves these problems.

The wall would keep them out of the US.

A wall will keep people from being trafficked into the US.

A wall would keep people from being gunned down in the US by the Mexican cartel members.

Any asylum seekers could go to a port of entry and make their claim.

Seems reasonable.

[Tero]

Lovely beautiful humanitarian wall, 42?

Some Fox hosts dumping Trump

After Trump said that “innocent people” are being “horribly victimized” by immigrants who commit crimes, Smith quickly added perspective.

“The government’s statistics show that there is less violent crime by the undocumented immigrant population than by the general population,” he said.
Trump also argued for his wall by saying that immigrants carry illegal drugs across the border, but Smith pointed out that a wall wouldn’t make much difference there.

“Government statistics show much of the heroin actually comes not over the unguarded border but through ports of call,” he said.

Smith continued:

“He talks about undocumented crossings over the past months. In fact, the number of undocumented crossings over the southern border has been steadily down over the last 10 years and the government reports that there is more outward traffic than inward traffic.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump ... 04564.html

[Forty Two]

Under the Obama-era Family Case Management Program for family groups seeking asylum at the southern border, there was a 100 percent attendance record at court hearings after release. Trump ended that program.

LOL - there were like 630 families in that program over several years. Wonderful. Those entering that program were very specifically chosen folks who were in special need.

The detention centers house over 400,000 illegal immigrants a year - 80 times the rate in 1994.