Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

[Hermit]

Yeah, it's like when left-whingers complain about 'the 1%', then get pissy when it is pointed out that they ARE the 1%

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The claim is as statistically true, or at least nearly enough, as it is irrelevant. Nobody compares their lot in terms of global poverty. Until we are governed by a global government we compare ourselves to everybody else in the particular nation we happen to live in.

In a country where ownership of two cows, seven goats and a well within a few minutes' walk is exceptional, a person in such a situation is well off and feels as such. In a country where owning a fairly recent model car is the norm, the person who cannot afford to replace their 14 year old jalopy's broken radio is not well off, and feels like that.

It is of no consolation to think that they belong to the 1% in global terms because the nation's government is not tasked with taking care of the poor in foreign countries.

[Cunt]

Look like many right wingers he compares poverty in America to third world countries. Of course no comparison.

Right, when compared to most countries in the world, there isn't much poverty to speak of in the US. That's true of some other countries in the world.

"Most" countries in the world are impoverished, poorly ruled, third world disaster areas. If you are comfortable in getting a passing grade when comparing poverty and inequality in the US to them, then fair enough.

If you want to compare apples to apples, then compare the US to a basket of developed western democracies, mainly Europe plus Oz, NZ and Canada...

Our world isn't separated though. We have a steady push for open borders, for instance, letting the UN make decisions about who should look after refugees, or the EU deciding who can cross borders and where.

The 1% are fabulously wealthy. That is pretty relative, but worldwide, there is no doubt in my mind that a very large part of Canada is the 1%

Yeah, it's like when left-whingers complain about 'the 1%', then get pissy when it is pointed out that they ARE the 1%

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Citation for what? Defining the 1% worldwide? Or the left-whingers being pissy when they find out that they ARE the privileged 1%?

Quote Cunt:

What do you expect? Progressive dickwads rail against and insult every aspect of their lives: Their religion, their customs, their opinions, their guns, their, lifestyles - everything. Suddenly, their religion is child abuse. Their guns are the worst thing ever. Their politics is Naziism. All of them are racists, and sexists and misogynists and otherwise "deplorable." When you do that to people, they tend to react with a big "fuck you."

Tero: but all that’s true. Basket of deplorables. They can do all that shit in private, but it has nothing to do with a vountry.

Your quoting skills are only exceeded by your command of rhetoric

[Brian Peacock]

"When left-whingers complain about 'the 1%" they're not complaining about the top 1% of global earners, but the top percentile in their own society. Let's not shift the goal posts, eh? if you want to call lef-whingers hypocrites for drawing attention to income inequality because they own a pair of shoes and know where their next meal is coming from please be more straightforward.

[Cunt]

"When left-whingers complain about 'the 1%" they're not complaining about the top 1% of global earners, but the top percentile in their own society. Let's not shift the goal posts, eh? if you want to call lef-whingers hypocrites for drawing attention to income inequality because they own a pair of shoes and know where their next meal is coming from please be more straightforward.

When they complain about the 1%, they are complaining about the rich ruining the lives of the poor.

So, get yourself a smartphone, (nevermind where the materials are mined, or where it is built) and get online and complain about the rich!

Or, alternately, you could take your wealth, move to an impoverished area, and share it.

But complaining about the rich (but only the ones 'richer' than you yourself) sounds a bit too simple.

[pErvinalia]

Yeah, it's like when left-whingers complain about 'the 1%', then get pissy when it is pointed out that they ARE the 1%

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He forgot to mention how he wilfully ignores when it's pointed out to him how he is being disingenuous by missing the point of the 1% argument.

[Tero]

Trump is going to give a speech about masses of terrorists and rapists invading from Mexico.

[JimC]

"When left-whingers complain about 'the 1%" they're not complaining about the top 1% of global earners, but the top percentile in their own society. Let's not shift the goal posts, eh? if you want to call lef-whingers hypocrites for drawing attention to income inequality because they own a pair of shoes and know where their next meal is coming from please be more straightforward.

When they complain about the 1%, they are complaining about the rich ruining the lives of the poor.

So, get yourself a smartphone, (nevermind where the materials are mined, or where it is built) and get online and complain about the rich!

Or, alternately, you could take your wealth, move to an impoverished area, and share it.

But complaining about the rich (but only the ones 'richer' than you yourself) sounds a bit too simple.

Actually, one of my key complaints is that their extreme wealth buys them immense leverage over political decisions (which they can steer to benefit themselves), making a mockery of the democratic process...

[pErvinalia]

That's the 1% argument. This has been explained to Cunt multiple times, yet he continues to wilfully ignore this fact.

[Cunt]

Yeah, it's like when left-whingers complain about 'the 1%', then get pissy when it is pointed out that they ARE the 1%

Citation required

He forgot to mention how he wilfully ignores when it's pointed out to him how he is being disingenuous by missing the point of the 1% argument.

I know you want to apply the argument only to your small country, but the world is blurring borders, now more than ever.

Those who can see (obviously) that you are the 1%, will have a different perspective. The wealthiest 1% of your country should do what?

Support the lower 99?

So what should the wealthiest 1% of the world do?

Fuck the lower 99, and enjoy their opulent lifestyle?

The 1% whinging shows clearly how narrow and provincial these arguments are. What a nice trick, to simply declare that all the wealthy are somehow liable for the ills of the world. I wonder if it has ever been tried before, and what the outcome was...

[Svartalf]

I could whinge about the 1% and anybody trying those tactics on me would be faced by the face that I'm in the 10% POOREST people in the country.

[Cunt]

Can we agree, at least, that a dollar is not the same thing to you and I?

As to the 10% poorest, I hope. I always hope, and mostly unapologetically, so please know that this isn't mean, but a practice of hope.

If you represent the poorest people in your country, yet have wealth sufficient to bring us together, then your country is fucking awesome.

(present media-circus aside)

[Svartalf]

I don't know how wealthy you are, but to me, a euro, which is worth about the same as a dollar, is a nonnegligible amount of money, if you disagree, then you are likely more than wealthy enough and available for additional taxation.

[Cunt]

I don't know how wealthy you are, but to me, a euro, which is worth about the same as a dollar, is a nonnegligible amount of money, if you disagree, then you are likely more than wealthy enough and available for additional taxation.

No need to get personal. I simply meant that a dollar was likely a different thing to you, or to me.

I could perhaps better express the difference I describe by using a days earnings, or a days meals.

To each of us, both living in opulence and comfort (fuck I hope I'm right about that) we are the hated 1% by a giant part of the world.

I'm also of modest means, Svartalf, but even that can't 'even' us, and we are both first-world old men. Imagine how different it is elsewhere.

I have a tough time wrapping my head around it, even when thinking about the poverty I have lived myself. It's hard to empathize 'down' (easy to imagine being rich, tough to really imagine poverty)

If the borders continue to soften (as they seem to be) then this is going to mean we are all really in this together. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind taking care of Canadians first, but when they invent the personal teleportation devices from Larry Niven's future, we won't have the luxury of using distance as a barrier to protect our wealth.

[pErvinalia]

Yeah, it's like when left-whingers complain about 'the 1%', then get pissy when it is pointed out that they ARE the 1%

Citation required

He forgot to mention how he wilfully ignores when it's pointed out to him how he is being disingenuous by missing the point of the 1% argument.

I know you want to apply the argument only to your small country, but the world is blurring borders, now more than ever.

Those who can see (obviously) that you are the 1%, will have a different perspective. The wealthiest 1% of your country should do what?

Support the lower 99?

So what should the wealthiest 1% of the world do?

Fuck the lower 99, and enjoy their opulent lifestyle?

The 1% whinging shows clearly how narrow and provincial these arguments are. What a nice trick, to simply declare that all the wealthy are somehow liable for the ills of the world. I wonder if it has ever been tried before, and what the outcome was...

For the nth time it is about political influence for self serving needs. Can you get this simple point?

[Cunt]

For the nth time it is about political influence

Deciding what gets mined and manufactured.

for self serving needs.

To have your smartphone delivered overnight.

Can you get this simple point?

You, by using your 'power' (wealth is power) to influence the world.

That's what the 1% argument is.

Do your purchasing choices cause your government to support some causes, and not support others?

If you can't see your influence on the world, I don't know how to show it to you.