Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:55 pm

DRSB wrote:
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I think it's reasonable to question both how and why there is a steady narrative about Russia being communist, evil and all that. I don't know all of Russia, but the people I know seem to have a decent life, in a country which looks much like mine, among people who seem like...regular people.

I mean, if I only listened to the racist media, I would have (DID have!) a different opinion on russia, but I've opened other channels, and found nice things.

For example, did you know that the largest stone ever moved by modern man was for a memorial in St. Petersberg? It's the base for this statue of Peter the Great, installed by Catherine the Great.
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It is still the cold war narrative. Of course there are lovely highly educated people in Russia. Wierd thing how I am starting to bond with Immanuel over Russia!
What I hear from mainstream media sounds very similar to Trump Derangement Syndrome (and has for years)

What I hear from real people in Russia makes it sound a lot more believable.

There is something a bit racist about the way Russia is painted in the news.
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Post by DRSB » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:58 pm

I know it very well, have many friends there.

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Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:00 pm

Not knowing the culture (and confounded by the fact that most of my information came from 'news' sources for years) I don't know if it's important, but when Putin and Trump met, that football handoff seemed weird.

If it was a 'football country' like Brazil or England, I could see it, but I never thought of Russia as a big football nation.
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Post by DRSB » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:05 pm

Look, I am no fan of Putin‘s but Russia is a great nation in pretty much every respect. Whenever I need something, research something, I check out what the Russians have done and this almost as a first point of reference. Lovely literature and arts too, I an so happy I am fluent and proficient in Russian, a huge resource to me!

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:26 pm

Does Cunt realise how rich Poetin is?
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:12 pm

DRSB wrote:
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Look, I am no fan of Putin‘s but Russia is a great nation in pretty much every respect. Whenever I need something, research something, I check out what the Russians have done and this almost as a first point of reference. Lovely literature and arts too, I an so happy I am fluent and proficient in Russian, a huge resource to me!
Another is using polystyrene as a course aggregate in the making of concrete building blocks. At least I think it came from Russia (my Russian is seldom and useless for research)

If you are into building materials, check it out. It looks like a very good solution for a lot of strange needs.
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Does Cunt realise how rich Poetin is?
Protein IS rich, that's why we all love eating it.

But if you mean Putin, well, does Putin realize how poor Scot Dutchy is?

And more importantly, what does either point have to do with the conversation? Are your politicians all 'non-rich' in your country?
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:37 pm

The question is not how rich Putin is, but how corrupt, he did not get rich on a KGB colonel's wages... he used and abused his situation to make himslef prodigiously wealthy... even more so than his pal Medvedev, and I ve seen a whole two hour video by Alexei Navalny demonstrating how wealthy and corrupt Medvedev is... and maybe explaining why Sochi was chosen for the olympics... so they could attend while staying in their luxury dachas...
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:41 pm

Most of the US politicians (who have had whole careers in politics) have WAY too much money for comfort.

Trump got rich being a boorish, businessman for years, then seems to have lost money serving as president.

I don't know Russian politics, except for some english-language and probably biased sources. What I hear from regular people makes me think it is not all that different from the US or Canada.
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:47 pm

Question is whether they ownedall or most of that money before applying for office, or whether they profited unduly from said office to become wealthier than their honoraries should make them....
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:49 pm

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Question is whether they ownedall or most of that money before applying for office, or whether they profited unduly from said office to become wealthier than their honoraries should make them....
So the Clinton Foundation having their donations drop significantly after Hillary lost, should indicate that Trump was BY FAR the best choice this time.

But no-one will bother taking his side, no matter how awful his competition was.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:00 pm

and the relation to what I said is what exactlY was the Clinton foundation the management organisation for hillbillary's campaign funds? heck, given that both of them studied at yale, odds are they were filthy rich even before college, let alone since.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:06 pm

They got filthy rich on the public purse, but the donations fell off quite sharply, as soon as it was clear she had no presidency to sell favours from.

The donated funds got very high when she was a high-ranking white house official (Secretary of State, I think, for the previous president)

Are you curious at all about who was donating? Or why they stopped so suddenly?
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Post by Seabass » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:17 pm

Cunt logic:

Walling off a house is the same as walling off a country.

News coverage of Putin's malign behavior = anti-Russian racism.

The corporate owned, profit-driven mainstream media has a left-wing bias.

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:36 pm

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Seabass » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:42 pm

Yeah, a president who repeats Russian propaganda is definitely a national security emergency.
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