Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

[Tero]

Al Franken on T visit
https://mobile.twitter.com/alfranken/st ... 09408?s=21

[Tero]

Retiring GOP lawmaker: Trump won't get $5B
Retiring Rep. Ryan Costello criticized President Donald Trump's handling of the shutdown, saying that the President is not going to get the $5 billion he is asking for the border wall.
Source: CNN
On Thursday’s broadcast of CNN’s “OutFront,” Representative Ryan Costello (R-PA) stated that he doesn’t envision a situation “where Democrats are willing to give any more additional border security money beyond 1.3 billion.”

Costello said, “I think it will be weeks, not days. It’s very difficult to know what the president would be willing to sign. And Mark Meadows, being one of his chief allies in Congress, in the House, unless and until those House members indicate what they’re willing to sign, and then have a bill pass the House and get over to the Senate for consideration, it will be weeks. … [T]here’s just a lot of uncertainty over what each entities’ bargaining position is right here, in other words, what would someone be willing to take? I just don’t see a scenario where Democrats are willing to give any more additional border security money beyond 1.3 billion. That’s just my take.”

[L'Emmerdeur]

It's a political stunt; snake oil for the Trump rubes.

'Trump claims he needs money for "border security" crisis — but he already has billions still unspent'

President Donald Trump has spent the past five days of the government shutdown holding federal workers hostage until Democrats meet his $5 billion ransom over a wall. But there’s one major problem with his latest budget showdown.

Trump’s cadre of cable news shills argue that Democrats have already funded his “wall” in previous votes. Conservative Steve Cortes claimed Democrats supported “border security” this year and last year in budget bills. The reason they’re not doing so now, according to Cortes, is that it’s Trump’s wall isn’t President Barack Obama’s idea.

While the talking point sounds like it was an idea some communications intern thought was “genius,” it puts Trump in an awkward predicament. If Democrats already funded Trump’s “border security” in previous years, why does Trump need more money now?

Closer examination reveals the Democrats supported funding of border security in the previous spending bill and it even included $1.6 billion for a border fence. At that time, Trump was demanding $25 billion for his concrete wall. But the president hasn’t even used the money he got this year.

“We’re absolutely willing to fund border security,” Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) said during an appearance on ABC’s “This Week.”

“The American people want us to spend money in a smart way,” he continued. “Five billion dollars is a lot of money … to spend it on a 4th-century strategy rather than on stuff that actually improves border security — it’s something that we’re just not going to do …. Border security all the way. In fact, again, the president has a lot of money we gave him last year for border security and he’s not using it.”

Merkley explained that Trump is “sitting on” over $1 billion and he’s only spent six percent of it.

[Tero]

Trump rejected plan needs to run through Senate anyway:
Democrats have accused Trump of promoting the shutdown, now in its 11th day as well as a new year, by insisting on an expensive that would do little or nothing to stop illegal border crossings.

"While @realDonaldTrump drags the nation into #TrumpShutdown Week 2 and sits in the White House & tweets, without offering any plan that can pass both chambers of Congress, Democrats are taking action to lead our country out of this mess," Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi tweeted in promoting her plan Monday.
USA today

[Animavore]

More harm from that endless well of stupidity that is the Trump administration.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Human feces, overflowing garbage, illegal off-roading and other damaging behavior in fragile areas were beginning to overwhelm some of the West’s iconic national parks, as a partial government shutdown left the areas open to visitors but with little staff on duty.

“It’s a free-for-all,” Dakota Snider, 24, who lives and works in Yosemite Valley, said by telephone Monday, as Yosemite National Park officials announced closings of some minimally supervised campgrounds and public areas within the park that are overwhelmed.

“It’s so heartbreaking. There is more trash and human waste and disregard for the rules than I’ve seen in my four years living here,” Snider said.

The partial federal government shutdown, now into its 11th day, has forced furloughs of hundreds of thousands of federal government employees. This has left many parks without most of the rangers and others who staff campgrounds and otherwise keep parks running.

https://apnews.com/e28b313197bb46bebef0 ... ELs1NObSpY

[Animavore]

Ouch!

[L'Emmerdeur]

The launch of the tremendous United States Space Corps is being bogged down by Deep State machinations. SAD!

'White House Seeks Alternatives to Independent Space Force'

For months, Pentagon officials have been rushing to prepare plans for an independent Space Force, a sixth branch of the military ordered up by President Trump. But since Oct. 26, they have been marching to new White House orders: go back and look at different ways to reorganize the military’s space operations.

One of the four new options is an old one, defense officials said: a space corps that would be part of the Air Force, the way the Marine Corps is part of the Department of the Navy. The proposed structure is similar to a bipartisan proposal that passed in the House but failed in the Senate last year.

Why the second thoughts? The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, suggested that some in the Trump administration fear that the proposed independent Space Force might not make it through Congress.

A former senior defense official said Pentagon officials would be more comfortable with a space corps within the Air Force, but feel Trump’s comments that he wants a “separate but equal” space force have given them little wiggle room.

The four options, according to one of the officials, include: 1) an Air Force-owned space corps that includes only Air Force assets, 2) an Air Force-owned space corps that also takes space-related troops and assets from the Army and Navy, 3) an independent service that takes from the Air Force, Army, and Navy, and 4) an independent service that takes from the three services plus parts of the intelligence community.

[Animavore]

Respect. One of the very few with the balls to speak plainly about the criminal scumbag in the White House.

[Cunt]

So I'm not doing the exact same thing, and nowhere have I apologized for any of these fools, but nice try at false equivalence Cunt. Just remember, you're the guy saying

It's fun to watch.

I hope my US friends can enjoy it as much as we who live outside the country.

Which comes across as just a little callous toward the poor border control folks out doing a hard job for no pay. Maybe you should focus less on trivialities like Trump's posturing and where Pelosi vacationed

You admit that both are at fault, then insist that if Trump doesn't accept the offer Pelosi crafted (which she knows he will reject) then you want to blame him again.

Trumps posturing is no more disgusting than Pelosi's.

Both should have their pay cut until they go back to work.

Oh wait - Trump already gave up his salary...well, maybe Pelosi will do the right thing, give up her salary until they stop fucking around.

As to the wall, I think it's pretty clear that walls work (prisons, borders, mansions etc.) and that the US wants them.

Again, why not do everything they can to stop illegal entry? I mean, unless the Dems somehow benefit from having non-citizens in the country illegally...it sure looks like that...

[Sean Hayden]

the US wants them

The majority of Americans don't want a wall.

[Cunt]

the US wants them

The majority of Americans don't want a wall.

It sure would mean something if the US were a 'majority rule' kind of place.

It isn't.

The difference is significant, and meant to prevent a few big ridiculous cities from exerting their will on the entire country.

[Sean Hayden]

I'm just correcting your mistake. You said the US wants them and that's not true. If you don't like it, then stop making things up.

[Cunt]

I'm just correcting your mistake. You said the US wants them and that's not true. If you don't like it, then stop making things up.

'The US' refers to the voting system, which elected Trump fairly above all other offers. He won based on promising to deliver a wall (which has been agreed upon in the past, but not acted upon)

[Sean Hayden]

The US does not refer to "the voting system". It never has. You're just making things up because you don't have a case that can withstand honest discourse.

[JimC]

Cunt wrote:

The difference is significant, and meant to prevent a few big ridiculous cities from exerting their will on the entire country.

So, the votes of people in "big ridiculous cities" are naturally worth less than upstanding country folk, presumably because in the cities they're poor, shiftless or black, or all 3, and don't deserve to have a say in issues best left to their betters...

What part of "majority" don't you fucking understand?