Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

[Brian Peacock]

Mogsy doesn't have a policy or any idea of an alternative - he's like a US Republican, he sees his role as entirely consisting of saying "No!" to the ideas of others. This is what happens when the bullied acquire authority.

[Scot Dutchy]

Mogsy doesn't have a policy or any idea of an alternative - he's like a US Republican, he sees his role as entirely consisting of saying "No!" to the ideas of others. This is what happens when the bullied acquire authority.

That is also a policy. He is looking after number one. I read somewhere under the new EU tax on tax havens it was going to cost him up to 1 billion Euros. No wonder he wants out a.s.a.p..

[Jason]

I thought it just meant "population" or something with a very similar import...

given that written communication was the exclusive province of aristocratic classes to whom most of the political body still felt like the 'great unwashed'... yeah, I still understand why my old prof would have translated "demos" as 'idiot'... After all, according to plato, Socrates passed his time demonstrating how his fellow politically enfranchised people were utter numbnuts... pushed it too far and it got him a drink of hemlock, but still not wrong.

I thought they executed him for "corrupting" the youth of Athens?

[Svartalf]

any excuse to get rid of the guy that bothered them and showed them for the idiots they were

[Scot Dutchy]

Here is an article about Moggsy and his money. It is obvious why he wants out:

The many, many millions of Mogg

The article is two years old but a nice background piece.

[Brian Peacock]

Well Junker and the EU leaders told Mrs May that her vague waffle about clarification and dumping the Irish border arrangement after a year was not going to cut it. It's not really upto the EU to please the rebellious members of her party and save her political bacon, is it? So now we're in exactly the same position we were in on Monday before she canceled the so-called 'meaningful vote' and then dodged a poorly executed attempted coup by the Brexitarian faithful.

[Scot Dutchy]

I know Brian. It is almost impossible to think of a way out avoiding a no deal exit which is still what Moggsy and chums want. Cancel Brexit? You would need to get a bill through Parliament which would be even more difficult than May's Deal. Prepare for a no-deal is about all you can say.

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah, I'm beginning to take the governments suggestion of a 'Brexit box' a bit more seriously now - storing two weeks worth of food and water just in case society collapses on March 30 might actually be a good idea. Would probably want a months worth at least - that'll give enough time for the roving street gangs to weaken and succumb to the natural attrition of in-fighting...

[Scot Dutchy]

It will be a strange limbo.

[Brian Peacock]

[Scot Dutchy]

Ian Hislop said that on HIGNFY as well. He really is a ghost of the 19th century.

[Rum]

Yeah, I'm beginning to take the governments suggestion of a 'Brexit box' a bit more seriously now - storing two weeks worth of food and water just in case society collapses on March 30 might actually be a good idea. Would probably want a months worth at least - that'll give enough time for the roving street gangs to weaken and succumb to the natural attrition of in-fighting...

All the hard Brexiteers have to do it seems to me now if fuck about so that May can't get a majority for any deal through the house. They win.

..and we lose.

I'm buying UHT milk at the very least.

[Jason]

New Brexit referendum logical, says Tony Blair

MPs could end up supporting another Brexit referendum if "none of the other options work", Tony Blair has said.

The ex-prime minister said there could be majority support for a new EU poll if Parliament ended up "gridlocked".

He urged Theresa May to "facilitate" the process by "running all options" by MPs first, including Norway and Canada-style alternatives as well as her deal.

But Labour frontbencher Angela Rayner says another referendum could increase division in the UK.

The shadow education secretary told the BBC's Question Time that holding a further Brexit vote would "undermine democracy".

"People made the decision and you can't keep going back saying, 'Would you like to answer it a different way?'"

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46565064

[Rum]

Plan B?

[Hermit]

I thought it just meant "population" or something with a very similar import...

given that written communication was the exclusive province of aristocratic classes to whom most of the political body still felt like the 'great unwashed'... yeah, I still understand why my old prof would have translated "demos" as 'idiot'... After all, according to plato, Socrates passed his time demonstrating how his fellow politically enfranchised people were utter numbnuts... pushed it too far and it got him a drink of hemlock, but still not wrong.

I thought they executed him for "corrupting" the youth of Athens?

Yeah. Like "they" nailed Al Capone for tax evasion.

Socrates copped it because he fought on the losing side - the aristocracy. He imagined that it is better to be governed by enlightened autocrats than by populists who used the easily led rabble like very skilled puppeteers.

Right now I almost sympathise with his view.