The Thread of Democrats

[Forty Two]

Care to list the good elements?

My qualification is only because of differing definitions of what constitutes extreme right. Some people call Donald Trump "extreme right." By my definition of extreme right, encompassing fascists, Nazis, the KKK and the like, they are all bad elements. By the Progressive leftist definition of anyone to the right of Chairman Mao, I would say there are plenty of good elements.

So again you use the definitions of those you disagree with to prop up your argument.

No, what are you on about?

I'm trying to find out who YOU think are the good extreme right-wingers.

Stop trying to dodge the question.

I've already told you. Under my definition, there aren't any "good" extreme right wingers.

[Cunt]

Which democrats are openly in support of 1a and 2a? Or do they just say that they are, while supporting 'hate speech laws'? A lot of students think both ways. They are wrong.

Well, that is why I asked what you meant by patriot and by supporting the constitution. If you've got some special meaning for patriot (i.e. they wave flags) then maybe the answer is different. But I don't think so.

How about saying publicly that their country is the best? Or saying that they want their culture to be the dominant one?

Why should it be a tough question?

I'm guessing you have a special meaning for supporting the 1st and 2nd as well, one that excludes those who support the right to bear arms and sensible regulation,

Since the right to bear arms is in opposition to regulations restricting the right to bear arms, it seems pretty cut-and-dried to me. Either you support it, or not.

as well as those who support free speech and efforts to check hate speech.

I don't think I can do much with that. It's possible that no democrats see things exactly your way. Why were you looking for that again?

As to hate speech / free speech, they are in even more direct conflict. How can hate speech restrictions work with freedom of speech, if one group thinks it is hateful to draw Mohamad, and one thinks it is an expression of freedom?

I'm guessing you are one of those who can't support 1a or 2a clearly. I would guess that the democrats have your vote.

Stop trying to dodge the question.

I've already told you. Under my definition, there aren't any "good" extreme right wingers.

NO! You have to answer the way HE wants you to.


rainbow can't strawman this shit all by himself, you know.

[rainbow]

rainbow can't strawman this shit all by himself, you know.

You and Farty Twat make a formidable team.

...making it up as you go along and then when caught out, blame the definitions.

We can't fault your logic, since it doesn't exist.

[Forty Two]

rainbow can't strawman this shit all by himself, you know.

You and Farty Twat make a formidable team.

...making it up as you go along and then when caught out, blame the definitions.

We can't fault your logic, since it doesn't exist.

What are you on about? Making what up?

This exchange was about the extreme right. I've told you I don't think anyone on the extreme right (as I understand it) is good. What is it you think you've caught me out on?

Farty Twat? LOL. Why don't you stop commenting on things you don't know anything about. How anyone can be an adult and not have read basic Marx and Engels -- my gosh. How ignorant can you be?

[JimC]

The extreme right wing has bad elements. Racial superiority types and fascists are beneath slime, I agree.

Care to list the good elements?

My qualification is only because of differing definitions of what constitutes extreme right. Some people call Donald Trump "extreme right." By my definition of extreme right, encompassing fascists, Nazis, the KKK and the like, they are all bad elements. By the Progressive leftist definition of anyone to the right of Chairman Mao, I would say there are plenty of good elements.

Somewhat of an exaggeration, there...

However, some on the left do go a bit overboard with the fascist or neo-Nazi labels, which are best restricted to the extreme right...

[laklak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Am ... militia%22
The court went and REDEFINED militia. In colonial times it had a clear meaning. Nothing of the King or US federal government. Strictly the state militia.

"the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.[11]" Wiki

That's fine with me, leave it to the individual states to define what "militia" means. Screw the Feds, let them coin money, enter into foreign treaties, and maintain the standing army, otherwise STFU and let the states make their own rules. Don't like the gun laws in Alabama? Move to New York.

Doesn't really matter what the court did with the definitions. They held that the 2nd protects private ownership so the 2nd does, in fact, protect private ownership, no matter what other people would like it to mean.

[Brian Peacock]

The extreme right wing has bad elements. Racial superiority types and fascists are beneath slime, I agree.

Care to list the good elements?

My qualification is only because of differing definitions of what constitutes extreme right. Some people call Donald Trump "extreme right." By my definition of extreme right, encompassing fascists, Nazis, the KKK and the like, they are all bad elements. By the Progressive leftist definition of anyone to the right of Chairman Mao, I would say there are plenty of good elements.

Care to list the good elements of the extreme right by your definition of the 'extreme right'?

[Forty Two]

The extreme right wing has bad elements. Racial superiority types and fascists are beneath slime, I agree.

Care to list the good elements?

My qualification is only because of differing definitions of what constitutes extreme right. Some people call Donald Trump "extreme right." By my definition of extreme right, encompassing fascists, Nazis, the KKK and the like, they are all bad elements. By the Progressive leftist definition of anyone to the right of Chairman Mao, I would say there are plenty of good elements.

Care to list the good elements of the extreme right by your definition of the 'extreme right'?

Does that answer your question?

[Brian Peacock]

So the extreme right doesn't just have bad elements, it is bad elements?

[pErvinalia]

The extreme right wing has bad elements. Racial superiority types and fascists are beneath slime, I agree.

Care to list the good elements?

My qualification is only because of differing definitions of what constitutes extreme right. Some people call Donald Trump "extreme right." By my definition of extreme right, encompassing fascists, Nazis, the KKK and the like, they are all bad elements. By the Progressive leftist definition of anyone to the right of Chairman Mao, I would say there are plenty of good elements.

Somewhat of an exaggeration, there...

However, some on the left do go a bit overboard with the fascist or neo-Nazi labels, which are best restricted to the extreme right...

Nazi.

[Tero]

Trump is a Nazi like his KKK daddy.

Hillary is a regular white person.

All them libertarians are Nazis too.

White college educated liberals are only slightly hip. Just barely out of Nazi range.

[Tero]

Me? It’s all biology. They should all go fuck someone not in their group. It’s all the same species.

[Forty Two]

So the extreme right doesn't just have bad elements, it is bad elements?

I wouldn't put it that way, but how about - it's intellectually bankrupt, usually racist, authoritarian in its politics, distasteful, simplistic, often hateful, and often collectivist or statist in philosophy. No redeeming qualities. Good enough?

[Forty Two]

Trump is a Nazi like his KKK daddy.

Hillary is a regular white person.

All them libertarians are Nazis too.

White college educated liberals are only slightly hip. Just barely out of Nazi range.

And, this is why I was careful to mention "my" definition - - because there are plenty of Progressive nutcases who really think this. Tero probably isn't being ironic here.

[laklak]

Nazis...Nazis EVERYWHERE!

I struggle to take any of it seriously.