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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:30 am

We could sort this out if Cunt would post the parts of the law he thinks are problematic, like L'Emmy asked him to do multiple times days ago.
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Post by Cunt » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:30 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:23 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:47 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
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You cant change gender at will. Once again Cunt you are being one. I think basically you are very uncomfortable at the thought what you see is not what you get.
You aren't understanding, Scot Dutchy.

Those ideal trans people you are describing are going to be as honest as you imagine them.

But when this law is available, I assure you people will abuse it.

Now, as to the law (in Canada) my understanding is that one only needs to decide to change, and their new choice is immediately protected under our Human Rights legislation.
How many people do you think are going to change just to fuck with you (or someone else)? Seriously, what a ridiculous view.
I found one, after a very short google search. Should I now provide a method of estimating the incidence of gender-faking? Why bother?

No facts change your mind about anything.
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There are human rights laws to insist that you never discriminate against someone based on their gender expression.
Bill C-16 again? Do you even know what "gender expression" means? Hint: It has nothing to do with the use of personal pronouns.
No, I don't. Neither does anyone else.

Help me understand with step 1, since it seems to confound any who try to answer.

How many genders will the public need to recognize, in order to satisfy those who have been pushing for law around this?

I choose to only recognize one, and am considering taking a teaching job. If I need more, make your case.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:32 am

But where would the fun be in that!??

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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:33 am

Cunt wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:30 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:23 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:47 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:23 am
You cant change gender at will. Once again Cunt you are being one. I think basically you are very uncomfortable at the thought what you see is not what you get.
You aren't understanding, Scot Dutchy.

Those ideal trans people you are describing are going to be as honest as you imagine them.

But when this law is available, I assure you people will abuse it.

Now, as to the law (in Canada) my understanding is that one only needs to decide to change, and their new choice is immediately protected under our Human Rights legislation.
How many people do you think are going to change just to fuck with you (or someone else)? Seriously, what a ridiculous view.
I found one, after a very short google search. Should I now provide a method of estimating the incidence of gender-faking? Why bother? No facts change your mind about anything.
You catastrophising hyperbolically about your personal fears is not "facts".
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Post by Cunt » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:34 am

If you really want to know how compelled speech comes out of this, a lawyer in Canada took a few minutes to explain.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:43 am

"And I'll agree that the bill itself on its face does not seem to imply any manner of compelled speech."

Anything else, he concedes, is speculation.
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Cunt » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:52 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:43 am
"And I'll agree that the bill itself on its face does not seem to imply any manner of compelled speech."

Anything else, he concedes, is speculation.
You are so smart! I should have just listened to your thoughtful, unbiased trolling from the start.
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by JimC » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:52 am

So, no real response to the quote, then... :roll:
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:55 am

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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Cunt » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:01 am

https://youtu.be/2PPXwcYtHn0?t=1062

This is a more thorough explanation. You can keep making you case that the law will never be enforced.

I don't believe you yet, over the lawyer in this recording. Still listening to both of you though.
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Post by Cunt » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:03 am

Forcing people to mouth words and opinions is totalitarian. (quote from the lawyer who is more convincing than you in his knowledge of the subject)
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by JimC » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:43 am

Cunt wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:03 am
Forcing people to mouth words and opinions is totalitarian. (quote from the lawyer who is more convincing than you in his knowledge of the subject)
Seriously, who the fuck is doing that, or even suggesting it?
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Cunt » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:43 am

Oh look, someone accused of violating bill c-16

Because of sharing a criticism of the bill itself.

https://youtu.be/2PPXwcYtHn0?t=3559
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Post by laklak » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:44 am

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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Cunt » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:45 am

JimC wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:43 am
Cunt wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:03 am
Forcing people to mouth words and opinions is totalitarian. (quote from the lawyer who is more convincing than you in his knowledge of the subject)
Seriously, who the fuck is doing that, or even suggesting it?
I understand you don't want to watch, but I'll try to answer questions.

The force I worry most about, is the kind which was applied, in secret, to Professor Rick Mehta, before he (a tenured Acadia professor) was fired. Oh, and they would not provide the information about the complaints unless he was willing to sign a gag-order.

He has uncommon resistance. How many prof's just shut up when their administration ordered them to?
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