Problematic Stuff

[Brian Peacock]

What, you just accept that makes sense perv? Yeah right, bullies don't bully over this issue cause they can see the humor in it. I'm in the fuckin loony bin.

But the question is, are you a patient or a member of staff?

[pErvinalia]

What, you just accept that makes sense perv? Yeah right, bullies don't bully over this issue cause they can see the humor in it. I'm in the fuckin loony bin.

Well I figure they might not feel as vulnerable in society as Indians might in the US. I don't know what the proportions are in the two countries, so that might be totally off the mark. And it might be off the mark even if the proportions are in favour of the UK. It was just an idea to consider in the debate.

[pErvinalia]

Hank Azaria is going to step away from voicing Apu on the Simpsons.

"The idea that anybody, young or old, past or present, was bullied or teased based on the character of Apu — it just really makes me sad."

The fucking Social Justice Warriors have got to him..

Oh noes! How dare he have compassion towards any children teased and bullied based off a character he played. The monster.

The social justice warriors threatened to start a fire on the road outside his house. He had no choice.

[Sean Hayden]

What, you just accept that makes sense perv? Yeah right, bullies don't bully over this issue cause they can see the humor in it. I'm in the fuckin loony bin.

Well I figure they might not feel as vulnerable in society as Indians might in the US. I don't know what the proportions are in the two countries, so that might be totally off the mark. And it might be off the mark even if the proportions are in favour of the UK. It was just an idea to consider in the debate.

Yeah

[Sean Hayden]

What, you just accept that makes sense perv? Yeah right, bullies don't bully over this issue cause they can see the humor in it. I'm in the fuckin loony bin.

But the question is, are you a patient or a member of staff?

Why turn a perfectly happy horse into a miserable man?

[Alan B]

I found a 'Peter Sellers' accent quite useful when I was in India in '73...

[Brian Peacock]

Goodness gracious me!

[L'Emmerdeur]

Further discussion of the issue of free speech at US universities:

'There Is No Campus Free Speech Crisis: A Close Look at the Evidence'

The campus free speech debate is heating up. Last month I made the case (first in a Twitter thread and then again at the Washington Post’s The Monkey Cage) that there is no campus free speech crisis. Around the same time, similar arguments were made by Matt Yglesias (at Vox), Aaron Hanlon (at NBC), and Mari Uyehara (at GQ). The gist of our collective argument was that young people and university students are generally supportive of free speech, that university enrollment is associated with an increase in tolerance for offensive speech, and that a small number of anecdotes have been permitted to set the terms of public debate.

Unsurprisingly, these debunkings have attracted some debunkings of their own. The most detailed of these was a pair of posts by Sean Stevens and Jonathan Haidt at the Heterodox Academy. In addition to restating the case for why the campus free speech crisis is real, Stevens and Haidt make a number of additional claims for why alarm is warranted. I am grateful for their critique, but I am not persuaded.

[Forty Two]

It's just jokes.

This is a political cartoon from an 1881 British magazine. The cartoon and the article was addressed to the British viewpoint regarding Irish terrorism and violence, and the British viewpoint that Irish nationalism and violence was being bred in the United States and transported into the UK.

The Wild Beast is an American of Irish descent. He is being held captive in Britain, as indicated by the figure of the policeman. A girl represents the "Irish Land Bill" (a reform bill designed to placate the Irish in Ireland) and she is held up to present the beast with a “Concession to Violence.” The nursemaid holding the girl (reform bill) up to the "beast" is Prime Minister William Gladstone, the chief supporter of the bill.

So, it's not just a joke, it's a political commentary, in the UK, lampooning and caricaturing Irish-Americans, which the British said is where their violent extremists were coming from....

And, this has, obviously, everything to do with a humorous depiction of a convenience store proprietor as Indian, or a pizza parlor operator as Italian, or a cop as Irish, or a mobster as Russian or Italian, or rich businessman as WASP..... clearly, it's all the same thing.

[Brian Peacock]

I think this strikes at something important in relation to the thread...



The full discussion can be viewed here.

[Forty Two]

Wow, fantastic video. Brendan's point of the bit eating the left being reactionary is a great point - folks schooled to reject the Enlightenment, schooled to reject due process, and schooled to reject freedom of speech and thought. I think I like that point because it is exactly the point I've been making for so long now, here on these threads.

[pErvinalia]

I think this strikes at something important in relation to the thread...



The full discussion can be viewed here.

I've forgotten the name of that guy (baldy with beard) but he is a libertarian nong. I can't watch anything with him in it. He drives me mad.

[Forty Two]

Marxist libertarian, he says:

[pErvinalia]

I've seen plenty of him before. His naivety and simplicity is off the scales.

[Forty Two]

That must be a good reason to not address the point of the video Brian Peacock posted.