
Are some animals evil?
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Are some animals evil?
Consider the shark? it's had yonks to develop a complex moral compass and move away from eating anything that moves in the water. No change at all. It's not like culture couldn't develop and social customs - it doesn't appear to want to change, though. 

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Re: Are some animals evil?
When you are clearly the top of the chain, you don't need a moral compass towards other animals. Unfortunately for the shark it has been surpassed by us at the top of the chain, so it needs to sort its shit out quick smart!
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Re: Are some animals evil?
In past times in England, animals that killed a man (like a bull goring a farmer to death) were actually put on trial, and sentenced to death...
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Re: Are some animals evil?
Mayhem is not evil. She's just the victim of bad photography.

Just look how gently she plays with that mouse. She loves playing with mice.

And here she is seen taking a sick birdie to the veterinarian.

"Evil" is a concept that can only make sense to theists and other primitives.

Just look how gently she plays with that mouse. She loves playing with mice.

And here she is seen taking a sick birdie to the veterinarian.

"Evil" is a concept that can only make sense to theists and other primitives.
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Re: Are some animals evil?
That's my problem with apex predators. I mean, they've had exactly the same amount of time to evolve as we have and yet have they ever bothered to develop language, write plays, or invent poptarts? No. They're not just stuck in a rut, they're fucking lazy that's what they are. Stupid, feckless, skivers.Crumple wrote:Consider the shark? it's had yonks to develop a complex moral compass and move away from eating anything that moves in the water. No change at all. It's not like culture couldn't develop and social customs - it doesn't appear to want to change, though.
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Re: Are some animals evil?
These days we just kill animals that haven't harmed anyone.JimC wrote:In past times in England, animals that killed a man (like a bull goring a farmer to death) were actually put on trial, and sentenced to death...
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Re: Are some animals evil?
No.
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Chickens. Always plotting. That's why we fry them.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Re: Are some animals evil?
Animals are not evil. But they can be possessed by evil demonic spirits.
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Oh, okay thenAnimavore wrote:No.
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I think Ani was addressing the OP Mr Dog.
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Beware of generalisations, Brian. #notallpredatorsBrian Peacock wrote:That's my problem with apex predators. I mean, they've had exactly the same amount of time to evolve as we have and yet have they ever bothered to develop language, write plays, or invent poptarts? No. They're not just stuck in a rut, they're fucking lazy that's what they are. Stupid, feckless, skivers.Crumple wrote:Consider the shark? it's had yonks to develop a complex moral compass and move away from eating anything that moves in the water. No change at all. It's not like culture couldn't develop and social customs - it doesn't appear to want to change, though.
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Re: Are some animals evil?
Many animals cause harm to others, some even seem to do it for their own amusement - cats will often murder mice slowly and not eat them. Why isn't that evil?
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Because the mice were asking for it.
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