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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by mistermack » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:47 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:I really hope Britain leaves as watching the crawling back will be a marvellous event.
Maybe. But in the meantime, who's going to pay the French farmers for doing fuck-all?
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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:41 am

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Scot Dutchy wrote:I really hope Britain leaves as watching the crawling back will be a marvellous event.
Maybe. But in the meantime, who's going to pay the French farmers for doing fuck-all?
They don't take kindly to any reduction in their feather bedding.
You should really learn some real facts and stop parroting the Daily Wail.
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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:21 pm

Priti Patel struggles to explain how UK would spend cash not sent to EU
Pro-Brexit Tory minister says of £160m being contributed to EU, £100m would go on NHS but then flounders over rest

The employment minister, Priti Patel, has struggled to explain how a post-Brexit government would spend money it currently contributes to the EU.

Remain campaigners accused Vote Leave of peddling “fantasy economics” after it claimed it would protect those, such as farmers and scientists, who are currently funded by the EU.
Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Patel, who has been prominent in the leave campaign, said: “There would be more than enough money to ensure that those who now get funding from the EU including universities, scientists, farmers, regional funds, would continue to get money.”

Pressed on how Britain would spend the £160m a week it currently contributes to the EU, Patel confirmed that a post-Brexit government would spend £100m a week on the NHS. But she was vague about the remaining £60m, saying only that it would go towards cutting VAT on fuel.

Asked how much would be spent on schools, new roads and tax cuts, Patel said: “We have not said we would spend money on those items. We have said that we would spend British taxpayers’ money on a range of priorities including the NHS and in particularly as well on [cutting] VAT on fuel. So those are the two areas that we have said we will spend that money on.”
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... sent-to-eu
The EU costs each Brit 30pence a day.
In everyday terms, the cost of EU membership is less than 30p per person per day, roughly the cost of a cheap mobile phone contract. The reduction in the government’s tax revenues from even a small reduction in growth rates after leaving would dwarf any saving in our net EU contribution.
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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by cronus » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:25 pm

It's cash flows....will resolve themselves over time. Winners and losers. :read:
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:35 pm

Crumple wrote:It's cash flows....will resolve themselves over time. Winners and losers. :read:
I know who will be the winners and it is not Little England.
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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:06 am

Risky business? City divided on impact of Brexit
Financial services could have the most to lose from leaving the EU, but some big names say London could benefit in the long term

London’s financial centre is deeply divided over the prospect of Britain leaving the EU, with Europhiles warning that it could lose its pre-eminence to rival cities in Europe while Brexiters say it could thrive if liberated from suffocating EU rules.

Financial services employ more than 7% of the workforce across Britain and produce about 12% of GDP, and with its inextricable links to European and global finance, the City arguably faces the most turbulence from Brexit.

At face value the threat might look exaggerated. Doesn’t the UK’s strength in international finance run deeper than hassle-free access to the European Union’s single market? Isn’t Frankfurt, the closest European rival, a mere village by comparison?

“The merchant bankers of Venice probably thought much the same,” replies Chris Cummings, chief executive of TheCityUK, an industry lobby group, which estimates that 100,000 jobs could be lost in financial services if the UK leaves the European Union. The UK’s competitive advantage in financial services, its biggest tax earner, is more fragile than many suppose, Cummings argues.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... t-76404859
The new Brexit mantra; "In the long term". Yep in the long term when there will be nothing left only Little England.
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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:44 am

The Japanese are not happy either:
Brexit is a 'huge negative' for Japanese companies in the UK
With Japanese companies employing 140,000 people in the UK, business chiefs from Hitachi, Fujitsu and Nissan are united in warning against leave

Some of Japan’s biggest companies have warned that a victory for the Brexit campaign could have a negative impact on their investments in Britain.

Sadayuki Sakakibara, the chairman of the Japan Business Federation, noted this week more than 1,000 Japanese firms have a presence in Britain.

It echoed a plea in May by the prime minister Shinzo Abe for Britain to remain in the EU, pointing out that those Japanese companies employ around 140,000 people in the UK.

“There would be an immeasurable impact on their businesses” in the event of a victory for the Leave campaign, he said.
His warning came as fears of a Brexit sent stocks in Tokyo to their lowest level in four months on Tuesday, and sparked a surge in the yen against the dollar and other major currencies.

Several Japanese firms have voiced alarm at the prospect of Britain leaving the EU.

Hitachi has said Britain’s membership of the EU had influenced its decision to open a train maintenance depot in west London last year.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... t-76407308
140,000 jobs at risk and do you think Brexiters care?
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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:21 am

It keeps coming:
British Medical Journal urges doctors to vote remain in EU
Editorial says leave campaign’s arguments on the NHS are wrong and warns Brexit would mean less money for healthcare

A leading health professionals’ journal has urged all doctors to vote remain in the 23 June referendum, arguing that the health case for Britain staying in the EU is overwhelming.

The British Medical Journal said it had taken the unusual step of intervening in a political debate after being unable to find any prominent health organisation that backs Brexit.

Its editors said the leave campaign’s arguments on the NHS were “simply wrong” and warned that EU withdrawal would mean less money for healthcare and a loss of influence on the medicines research agenda.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ote-remain
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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by cronus » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:28 am

The main thing to consider from the Dutch angle is do you want to stay in after the UK has leg-footed it? I mean Germany is gonna be right bothered, like a swarm of angry hornets, - it's gonna be a mess to sort and they'll be looking for a new version of Greece to kick, some small country to implicate and blame....and Holland was trading with the UK a lot up until Brexit....not only will that 10 billion euros of trade be lost Germany will be expecting it won't be...and make fiscal demands accordingly. And then it will start the choke chain loan game it played with Greece....that's if The Netherlands stays....future is wide open if it doesn't, UK and Holland....loan ranger and tonto.
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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:47 am

Crumple wrote:The main thing to consider from the Dutch angle is do you want to stay in after the UK has leg-footed it? I mean Germany is gonna be right bothered, like a swarm of angry hornets, - it's gonna be a mess to sort and they'll be looking for a new version of Greece to kick, some small country to implicate and blame....and Holland was trading with the UK a lot up until Brexit....not only will that 10 billion euros of trade be lost Germany will be expecting it won't be...and make fiscal demands accordingly. And then it will start the choke chain loan game it played with Greece....that's if The Netherlands stays....future is wide open if it doesn't, UK and Holland....loan ranger and tonto.
You just dont get it do you. How will it be a mess? More Brexit wet dreams. It will be a mess for Britain; no markets and splitting up going downhill.
Greece deserved everything she got and the EU saved that country. Having trouble completing sentences?
The Eurozone is now outperforming every other trading block. Please stop having your Brexit wet dreams. I suppose you did not read my posts typical of a Brexiter. The truth hurts that much. Britain will be nowhere and just watch all the Japanese companies flocking to other EU countries with a loss of 140,000 jobs. They dont want to be isolated from a market of 500 million. Watch your health system shrivel up as all the foreign staff leave.
Sturgeon will take Scotland and the North of England back into the EU within the year. Wales will follow on behind. Only way the two Irelands can solve their border problems is to unite. So what will be left?



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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by cronus » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:04 pm

The UK has a massive knowledge of money and how it works. Close connections, over generations, with monetary centres around the world. World beating universities. The UK is good at making money. And genetic engineering, commercial satellite design, green energy technologies etc...a diverse range of in demand enterprises. Holland could be like Hong Kong. Or it could be like it is. The new Greece.
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Post by Hermit » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:44 pm

Crumple wrote:The UK has a massive knowledge of money and how it works. Close connections, over generations, with monetary centres around the world. World beating universities. The UK is good at making money. And genetic engineering, commercial satellite design, green energy technologies etc...a diverse range of in demand enterprises. Holland could be like Hong Kong. Or it could be like it is. The new Greece.
Oh, just look at that! Crumple has found an optimistic streak all of a sudden.

Dream on, Crumple. The glorious days of Great Britain are long gone, and there is nothing you can point to in its exit from the EU that will return them, even in part. The likes of you will be on the road to Wigan Pier before you know it, but this time there won't even be any coal to sweat over in order to eke out a miserable living.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:12 pm

Crumple has shorted the stock market. He's spruiking for an exit. :hehe:
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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:11 pm

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Re: EU referendum: Donald Trump backs Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:38 am

Crumple wrote:The UK has a massive knowledge of money and how it works. Close connections, over generations, with monetary centres around the world. World beating universities. The UK is good at making money. And genetic engineering, commercial satellite design, green energy technologies etc...a diverse range of in demand enterprises. Holland could be like Hong Kong. Or it could be like it is. The new Greece.
The Netherlands were a founder member and are very much involved in the running of the EU not like England which is on the edge. It was a Dutchman that organised the Greek rescue but of course the Little Englanders would not realise that. What do you think will happen when the Scottish bit of England breaks off and returns to the EU along with the North bit of England. The Welsh bit of England wont hang around either and the same is true of the Northern Irish bit of England. After all those bits of England have left what will be left?

Little England will be a little dingy in the ocean of the world. God bless to all who will sail in her. There will of course be at least three. :hehe:
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