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Re: Jian Ghomeshi trial

Post by Cunt » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:42 pm

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I think it's a very good arrangement, and having the justice system provide 'victims services' in the way that it does now seems in conflict with that.
Only if you don't understand who the actual real life victim was, or you hate women, or you have severe ASD and can't get past semantics. :roll:
Oh little one, if only the whole modern justice system could only see how smart you are...they would all change.

I don't understand either, so your brilliance whipped past me, too. Maybe you could explain it so someone as simple as I can understand...
Why is it better to name the victim as an individual, rather than as 'R'?
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:15 am

You'll just troll any response I'd make. And the fact that you apparently can't even tell the difference between the real victim and a legal artifice suggests I'd be wasting my time.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:32 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:You'll just troll any response I'd make. And the fact that you apparently can't even tell the difference between the real victim and a legal artifice suggests I'd be wasting my time.
You are right, of course. I sure wish the legal system would start listening to you. I know I am.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:06 pm

As I said, you can't tell the difference between the real victim and a legal artifice. And the legal system is fine. I haven't commented on the legal system. Additionally, I'm not the one who has a problem with it. It's you who thinks that a non-sentient thing (the legal system) can be insulted and nonsensically needs to have the concept of "victim's services" separated from it. :fp:
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You are right of course, rEvolutionist. I should never have doubted you.

Victims Services is a great boon to real and false accusers, who really ARE all victims.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:13 pm

Cunt wrote:You are right of course, rEvolutionist. I should never have doubted you.
trolololol. :roll:

Victims Services is a great boon to real and false accusers, who really ARE all victims.
Huh? False accusers aren't victims.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:19 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Victims Services is a great boon to real and false accusers, who really ARE all victims.
Huh? False accusers aren't victims.
Right. You ARE a smart one!

I should just wait and listen to your thoughts on current news, so I know what the right interpretation is. I'll try to say less and listen more.

Maybe you can explain how Victims Services decides who to support...I still don't understand it as well as you do, clearly.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:24 pm

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Post by Cunt » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:57 pm

One of your more thoughtful comments, I'm sure. I will have to think about it a bit, since I don't 'get it' yet.
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Post by Forty Two » Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:27 pm

Judge
Horkins wrote that all three witnesses’ credibility had been undermined by their own testimony. “The success of this prosecution depended entirely on the Court being able to accept each complainant as a sincere, honest and accurate witness,” he concluded. “Each complainant was revealed at trial to be lacking in these important attributes. The evidence of each complainant suffered not just from inconsistencies and questionable behavior, but was tainted by outright deception.”
http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... xt/475497/

Nevertheless, journalists like to write up these articles as if the complainants have suffered some indignity or unfairness. It's always the defense engaged in some strategy or artifice, rather than proving the witnesses liars.
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Re: Jian Ghomeshi trial

Post by Forty Two » Tue May 03, 2016 10:30 am

Examination of published feminist views on criminal justice --
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Svartalf » Tue May 03, 2016 10:36 am

maybe they know, but Justice doesn't, and Justice primes over lynch mob, thanks for the force of Law.
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Re: Jian Ghomeshi trial

Post by Forty Two » Tue May 03, 2016 10:47 am

Svartalf wrote:maybe they know, but Justice doesn't, and Justice primes over lynch mob, thanks for the force of Law.
For the time being -- the movement is underway to eliminate the burden of proof, etc.
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Post by Svartalf » Tue May 03, 2016 11:26 am

let's hope that movement doesn't succeed.
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Re: Jian Ghomeshi trial

Post by Forty Two » Tue May 03, 2016 11:30 am

Indeed, but there is a serious danger of it succeeding. Those forces are gradually shifting the zeitgeist.
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