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Democrat Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes, Predictions

Post by Forty Two » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:42 pm

So, it comes down to a lying establishment corporatist vs. an avowed socialist.


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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:43 am

Go social democracy!! :cheer:
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:18 am

There's a social democrat running for President? Where?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:21 am

He'll be a social democrat by definition as he'll be president of a capitalist system.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:26 am

What the country is is not the same as what the man is. The country is a republic, aka democracy, and the system is ostensibly capitalist. But, Bernie is an avowed Socialist. He has called himself that since the 70s, at least.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:33 am

Sure, but he can't be socialist if he is president. He'll implement (where he can) social democracy.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:37 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Sure, but he can't be socialist if he is president. He'll implement (where he can) social democracy.
Of course he can. He probably won't be able to socialize the entire economy in one go, but he can certainly be a socialist.

A socialist poliitician in a democracy doesn't become a social democrat anymore than a socialist politician in a democracy turns the democracy into a social democracy. These are different concepts.

The US has a mixed economy, and if a communist was elected to office it would still be a mixed economy and the elected person would still be a communist. You can have a communist, or a fascist, leader elected who is unable to achieve anything and so the economic and political structure of the country remains capitalist or mixed and democratic.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:55 am

I didn't say he wouldn't be a socialist anymore. But what you'll get is social democracy as I said in my first post.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:59 am

rEvolutionist wrote:I didn't say he wouldn't be a socialist anymore. But what you'll get is social democracy as I said in my first post.
You wouldn't get social democracy either. Whether we got that would depend not just on the President, but on the laws and policies he was able to implement. Electing a socialist, Communist, fascist, or nymphomaniac President doesn't turn the country into a social democracy, or anything else. But, if you're saying that that's where we'd end up, most likely, given the policies he'd propose, then you have a decent argument.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:04 pm

This is getting boring. I've already says as much.
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“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Post by laklak » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:24 pm

How do you get shot in Texas?
Drive a Prius with "Feel the Bern" and "Ban Assault Weapons" stickers.

What's the difference between Bernie Sanders and a whore?
With the whore you actually get something for your 50 bucks.

What's Hillary Clinton's definition of marriage equality?
You both get to be President.

Why did Hillary shag Bill every morning when he was President?
She wanted to be the First Lady.

What's Bill Clinton's definition of safe sex?
Hillary is out of town.

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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:29 pm

How many Democrats does Bernie Sanders need to screw in a light bulb?

Just one, but it REALLY gets screwed...
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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