Bacon causes cancer

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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by mistermack » Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:50 am

As observed during the last 10 years in a certain district of Hungary with a Slovenian population, the percentage of stomach cancer among all types of cancer is nearly twice as high (47-50%) as in Hungary altogether (29.9%). In this special district, predominantly home-smoked meat products are consumed.
Anyone spot the flaw in this study?
If you are regularly home-smoking your meat, you are likely to be inhaling plenty of smoke.

I'm not saying that eating smoked food doesn't cause an increased risk of cancer.
Just pointing out that a coincidence of raised rates, with smoked food, doesn't establish the link.
It might be right, but that's not the way to establish it.

Anyway, I'm willing to bet that people who home-smoke their own food also have a higher consumption of tobacco, on average. Not necessarily everywhere, but in most cases.
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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by rainbow » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:55 pm

mistermack wrote:
As observed during the last 10 years in a certain district of Hungary with a Slovenian population, the percentage of stomach cancer among all types of cancer is nearly twice as high (47-50%) as in Hungary altogether (29.9%). In this special district, predominantly home-smoked meat products are consumed.
Anyone spot the flaw in this study?
If you are regularly home-smoking your meat, you are likely to be inhaling plenty of smoke.

I'm not saying that eating smoked food doesn't cause an increased risk of cancer.
Just pointing out that a coincidence of raised rates, with smoked food, doesn't establish the link.
It might be right, but that's not the way to establish it.

Anyway, I'm willing to bet that people who home-smoke their own food also have a higher consumption of tobacco, on average. Not necessarily everywhere, but in most cases.
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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by laklak » Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:44 pm

It was pretty tasty, except for the chicken part.

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Re: Bacon causes cancer

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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by mistermack » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:43 pm

I seem to remember someone finding that burnt toast causes cancer too.
The darkening is caused by granules of carbon, which has the ability to raise cancer rates.

Gotta die of summat. Getting really old is a killer too. Best avoided.
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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:58 am

mistermack wrote:I seem to remember someone finding that burnt toast causes cancer too.
The darkening is caused by granules of carbon, which has the ability to raise cancer rates.
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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by cronus » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:15 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ANLON.html

To use the scientific term… it’s cobblers! If you’re consuming enough bacon to make it as dangerous as tobacco, then cancer is the least of your worries, says MICHAEL HANLON

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3qEmi4ksR
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Post by Hermit » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:42 pm

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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:28 am

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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by mistermack » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:37 pm

Don't write off bacon, it might save your life in the future :

http://www.nature.com/news/new-life-for ... 1508_RHBox
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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:27 pm

Slightly off track here, but are the ethical issues associated with animals being farmed as organ factories any different to those around animals being farmed for food?
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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by mistermack » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:45 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:Slightly off track here, but are the ethical issues associated with animals being farmed as organ factories any different to those around animals being farmed for food?
Some people might think so, but I wouldn't.
It doesn't matter to me much what happens to my body when I die. But if I had to state a preference, I suppose I would rather that pigs used some of my organs, rather than they just ate me.
It depends what this gene manipulation involves I guess. If that actually caused suffering to the pig while it was alive, then that might be an issue.
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Re: Bacon causes cancer

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:12 pm

Well, at least one argument changes. You can't replace a lung with beans.

There's also the issue of scale -sigh, philosophers can't string together or see a sentence that isn't worthy of a lifetime of arguments...

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