Guns bad...case closed

[mistermack]

How about YOU give it a bash instead. I don't think you'd come off nearly as well as a 75 year old ex-soldier. I think you'd be dead right now, and so would a number of kids.

Actually, I'd stand far more chance against him, if he had a knife, rather than a gun.

If it came to a choice, between us both having guns, or him having a knife and me no weapon, I would choose the second every time. You can usually improvise some sort of weapon to even up the odds a bit.
But it's hard to improvise anything if he shoots you first. Which is highly likely, because you don't normally shout a warning, when you are bent on mass murder.

But I can see that you have little experience of these matters. Just what you've read or fantasised.

[Seth]

How about YOU give it a bash instead. I don't think you'd come off nearly as well as a 75 year old ex-soldier. I think you'd be dead right now, and so would a number of kids.

Actually, I'd stand far more chance against him, if he had a knife, rather than a gun.

Indeed. But you'd stand a much better chance if you had a gun, and therein lies the point. Right now, if I am correct about the laws you live under, you have exactly jack-shit with which to defend yourself or anyone else that you can legally carry...not so much as a tiny container of tear gas, Mace or OC. How stupid is that?

If it came to a choice, between us both having guns, or him having a knife and me no weapon, I would choose the second every time. You can usually improvise some sort of weapon to even up the odds a bit.

We have a name for people like you: "corpses"

But it's hard to improvise anything if he shoots you first. Which is highly likely, because you don't normally shout a warning, when you are bent on mass murder.

Situational awareness is critical to self defense, 'tis true.

But I can see that you have little experience of these matters. Just what you've read or fantasised.

Actually I have decades of experience and training, which is why you should pay attention, because clearly you don't know shit from Shinola when it comes to self defense.

[Tero]

Seth, nobody denies the fact that the guy with the gun is in a stronger position than the guy without.

That is exactly why I need to tale the gun away from you.

Socialism! The solution for the future overpopulated planet. Guns: messier solution for the same.

[mistermack]

Actually I have decades of experience and training,

Yeh sure you do.
Is that why you know fuck-all?

[JimC]

They can prise my gin bottle from my cold dead hands!

[laklak]

That is exactly why I need to tale the gun away from you.

I wouldn't advise trying that, TBH.

[Tero]

Just speaking figuratively. I will sic Hillary on him.

[Seth]

Seth, nobody denies the fact that the guy with the gun is in a stronger position than the guy without.

Exactly.

That is exactly why I need to tale the gun away from you.

Right, because you want to be able to enslave me. Not gonna happen. All that will happen is that you will quite suddenly and unexpectedly cease to be a Socialist should you attempt to do so.

Socialism! The solution for the future overpopulated planet.

Indeed. Many fewer Socialists will leave the planet for the rest of us to live in liberty.

And that's precisely why Socialists will never get our guns even if they try. What will happen is that the jackboots whom socialists send out to collect them because socialists are too fucking cowardly to try it themselves will die for their stupid political ideas. And then the Socialists will die in their turn as traitors to the Constitution, as they should, hanging from gibbets along Pennsylvania Avenue until the crows have picked them clean as a lesson to anyone else who might presume to try to violate the fundamental rights of citizens of the United States.

If you don't like that idea, I suggest you renounce your citizenship and ask for political asylum in Cuba, where you will be welcomed...for all it's worth.

[Seth]

Actually I have decades of experience and training,

Yeh sure you do.
Is that why you know fuck-all?

Yes, I do, which is why I know and make manifest to readers here that you don't know anything at all.

[mistermack]

And that's precisely why Socialists will never get our guns even if they try. What will happen is that the jackboots whom socialists send out to collect them because socialists are too fucking cowardly to try it themselves will die for their stupid political ideas. And then the Socialists will die in their turn as traitors to the Constitution, as they should, hanging from gibbets along Pennsylvania Avenue until the crows have picked them clean as a lesson to anyone else who might presume to try to violate the fundamental rights of citizens of the United States.

If you don't like that idea, I suggest you renounce your citizenship and ask for political asylum in Cuba, where you will be welcomed...for all it's worth.

That post actually makes you sound retarded. The people on youtube saying shit like that are all inbred hillbillies.
Any relation?

[Rum]

And that's precisely why Socialists will never get our guns even if they try. What will happen is that the jackboots whom socialists send out to collect them because socialists are too fucking cowardly to try it themselves will die for their stupid political ideas. And then the Socialists will die in their turn as traitors to the Constitution, as they should, hanging from gibbets along Pennsylvania Avenue until the crows have picked them clean as a lesson to anyone else who might presume to try to violate the fundamental rights of citizens of the United States.

If you don't like that idea, I suggest you renounce your citizenship and ask for political asylum in Cuba, where you will be welcomed...for all it's worth.

That post actually makes you sound retarded. The people on youtube saying shit like that are all inbred hillbillies.
Any relation?

Yep - a new low, even for him.

[Seth]

And that's precisely why Socialists will never get our guns even if they try. What will happen is that the jackboots whom socialists send out to collect them because socialists are too fucking cowardly to try it themselves will die for their stupid political ideas. And then the Socialists will die in their turn as traitors to the Constitution, as they should, hanging from gibbets along Pennsylvania Avenue until the crows have picked them clean as a lesson to anyone else who might presume to try to violate the fundamental rights of citizens of the United States.

If you don't like that idea, I suggest you renounce your citizenship and ask for political asylum in Cuba, where you will be welcomed...for all it's worth.

That post actually makes you sound retarded. The people on youtube saying shit like that are all inbred hillbillies.
Any relation?

Not that i know of. But the fact that inbred retarded hillbillies have more common sense, logic and reason than you do is enlightening.

[Seth]

And that's precisely why Socialists will never get our guns even if they try. What will happen is that the jackboots whom socialists send out to collect them because socialists are too fucking cowardly to try it themselves will die for their stupid political ideas. And then the Socialists will die in their turn as traitors to the Constitution, as they should, hanging from gibbets along Pennsylvania Avenue until the crows have picked them clean as a lesson to anyone else who might presume to try to violate the fundamental rights of citizens of the United States.

If you don't like that idea, I suggest you renounce your citizenship and ask for political asylum in Cuba, where you will be welcomed...for all it's worth.

That post actually makes you sound retarded. The people on youtube saying shit like that are all inbred hillbillies.
Any relation?

Yep - a new low, even for him.

Respect the Constitution or get the fuck out of the USA.

[mistermack]

Respect the Constitution or get the fuck out of the USA.

If they respected the constitution, they wouldn't have amended it, would they?

[Seth]

Respect the Constitution or get the fuck out of the USA.

If they respected the constitution, they wouldn't have amended it, would they?

What "they" are you referring to? Keep in mind that "they" the Framers, amended it to further restrict the machinations and evils of government, not inhibit private enjoyment of pre-existing rights. It's ALWAYS a good idea to amend the Constitution to constrain government's ability to fuck with people, viz: the repeal of Prohibition, which was a fucking disaster of an amendment in the first place, brought on by the Progressives who wanted to control people by forbidding alcohol, and what happened was nationwide, blatant, in-your-face, fuck-you-very-much civil disobedience that quickly lead to the repeal of Prohibition.

The absolute worst amendment ever passed was the Sixteenth Amendment that authorized the income tax, purportedly to pay for WWI, promised to never exceed 7 percent, and promised to be repealed once the war debts were paid off. Fucking Progressives of course lied through their teeth and it was never repealed, and now our income tax rates are far above 7 percent.

The next-worst one was the Seventeenth Amendment, again a Progressive subversion, that provided for popular election of Senators, who were mandated by the Constitution to be elected by the legislatures of the states. The purpose of having the state legislatures appoint Senators was so that one house of the Congress protected the interests of the States as against the federal government while the other, the House of Representatives, served the people.

By having the state legislatures appoint Senators, the Executive branch would always have to garner the permission and approval of the various state legislatures for laws that trenched on state sovereignty. By making senatorial elections popular votes, the dynamic was seriously changed and now Senators, instead of having to cooperate with the state legislatures, which could recall and replace them at will, merely have to bring home enough pork to win the popular vote

Bad, very bad for the balance of powers set forth by the Framers, every time an amendment further empowers the federal government instead of further constricting and constraining it.