Tero wrote:It needs a federal government, a military, universities and BIG MONEY from tax payers to push forward. No improved Li battery will come from industry alone.
Sure it will, when and if there is sufficient demand for it from consumers. Which of course is exactly what happened. It's pure happenstance if some publicly-funded university tenured researcher with his snout in the public trough comes up with something interesting or useful that is later turned into a marketable device by private industry and the forces of the free market. Plenty of research gets done by industry, and an improved battery will come to be because there is a profit motive involved.
Quite often the application of a university funded invention can be further patented as far its use for specific products. (By the university inventor or someone else). That means more than 50% of the funding to get the product invented and made came from tax payers. Because there was nothing to go forward from until the basic research was published.
And that justifies thieving money from unwilling participants in your science experiment how, exactly? If there's a need in the marketplace, the market will eventually supply that need. Government-funded university research is just a featherbedding waste of money better spent
educating students in something other than Marxist propaganda.
"Public University" and "research" should be mutually exclusive terms. We pay public universities to educate students, not engage in research at the expense of public education. Private universities can do as they please with the money they get from willing parents and donors, but taxpayer-funded universities have an obligation to spend public money educating students, and only educating students, not funding private research or football teams.
Then again, there should be no "public universities" at all anyway. Every university should be private, and privately funded with exactly zero taxpayer money being collected to pay for it. If you want a higher education, YOU pay for it, or you ask someone to contribute to paying for it and convince them that you are worthy of their investment. Public universities have become Marxist indoctrination camps that have no academic standards at all and whose "diplomas" are as worthless as the propaganda that tenured leftist professors (as if there are any non-Marxist tenured professors) hand out every day.
University is and should be a privilege reserved for the best of the best of our students who have worked their asses off for their entire school careers and have demonstrated the scholarship and drive necessary to make it worth investing in giving them a higher education. College education is not, nor should it ever be an entitlement nor should it be easy to get a diploma. Otherwise, the whole system becomes as utterly worthless as a Russian medical school education, which won't get you a job cleaning bedpans in any US hospital.
This all came up in a Seth rant. I thought my Khorana example was pretty good but not sure Seth understood it. But beyond Seth, discuss the claim.
I understand it just fine. I just reject your premises as unfounded, unsupported, and fallacious.
The government has no business dunning taxpayers to pay for anyone's college education, much less for research.
If the free market cannot support the necessary research, then the research is not necessary.
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