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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat May 16, 2015 1:09 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:He's one of the greatest comedians of his type and his time. To accuse him of anger is strange.
Really? I've never heard of him and don't find him even slightly amusing.
...could that be perhaps because he pokes fun at things you hold sacred (despite your protestations)? :tea:
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by piscator » Sat May 16, 2015 1:10 am

Animavore wrote:This answers all your concerns in song. Around 5:20.





I think that's a [/thread]
He's got more lines than Hamlet, and is giving a piano recital and leading an orchestra the whole time.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by Animavore » Sat May 16, 2015 9:48 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:He's one of the greatest comedians of his type and his time. To accuse him of anger is strange.
Really? I've never heard of him and don't find him even slightly amusing.
...could that be perhaps because he pokes fun at things you hold sacred (despite your protestations)? :tea:
:sigh: I don't like to get involved, Seth, but this is where you're definitely wrong. The song is a masterpiece of sarcasm. It is incredibly well thought out. The lyrics are literally lethal. Saying, "He sounds angry" actually sounds like sour grapes from your side.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by mistermack » Sat May 16, 2015 6:35 pm

Doctor gets it wrong. Patient recovers.

It's a miracle !!!

Or, doctor got it wrong. Patient recovers. It happens all the time.

Doctors have been getting it wrong since the very first one. Leeches and mercury. They cured just about anything. If you survived.

It's a miracle !!!

Or maybe sheer luck works in mysterious ways.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by Seth » Sat May 16, 2015 6:42 pm

mistermack wrote:Doctor gets it wrong. Patient recovers.
It's a miracle !!![/quote]

Did the doctors get it wrong?
Or, doctor got it wrong. Patient recovers. It happens all the time.
Did the doctors get it wrong?
Doctors have been getting it wrong since the very first one. Leeches and mercury. They cured just about anything. If you survived.

It's a miracle !!!
Did the doctors get it wrong? Credulous religious faith in the incompetence of doctors is not an explanation for the events cited. Critically robust scientific evidence of their error is required, according to your own standards.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by Seth » Sat May 16, 2015 6:43 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:He's one of the greatest comedians of his type and his time. To accuse him of anger is strange.
Really? I've never heard of him and don't find him even slightly amusing.
...could that be perhaps because he pokes fun at things you hold sacred (despite your protestations)? :tea:
You mean things like reason, logic and tolerance? I suppose so.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by Seth » Sat May 16, 2015 6:44 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:The anger is exaggerated for comedic effect. Look him up on youtube. He's Australian. That's why you haven't heard of him. i.e. he's not a Merkin.
Well, he's also not all that funny, which is a more likely explanation.

He also needs a hair stylist and he looks like an EMO-girl.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by Animavore » Sat May 16, 2015 7:29 pm

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:The anger is exaggerated for comedic effect. Look him up on youtube. He's Australian. That's why you haven't heard of him. i.e. he's not a Merkin.
Well, he's also not all that funny, which is a more likely explanation.

He also needs a hair stylist and he looks like an EMO-girl.
So sour.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by Animavore » Sat May 16, 2015 7:32 pm

Seth wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:He's one of the greatest comedians of his type and his time. To accuse him of anger is strange.
Really? I've never heard of him and don't find him even slightly amusing.
...could that be perhaps because he pokes fun at things you hold sacred (despite your protestations)? :tea:
You mean things like reason, logic and tolerance? I suppose so.
So lol.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by klr » Sat May 16, 2015 8:20 pm

piscator wrote:I know of a woman from a religious family that prayed for each others' safety every day. This woman was involved in an automobile accident and didn't recover.
Explain that one, theologians.
Wasn't there some bus-load of Indian pilgrims on their way to a religious shrine associated with good luck, where the bus plunged into a ravine?

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Post by pErvinalia » Sun May 17, 2015 10:28 am

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:The anger is exaggerated for comedic effect. Look him up on youtube. He's Australian. That's why you haven't heard of him. i.e. he's not a Merkin.
Well, he's also not all that funny, which is a more likely explanation.

He also needs a hair stylist and he looks like an EMO-girl.
I bet he gets FAR more pussy than you. :tea:
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Post by mistermack » Sun May 17, 2015 10:49 am

Seth wrote: Did the doctors get it wrong? Credulous religious faith in the incompetence of doctors is not an explanation for the events cited. Critically robust scientific evidence of their error is required, according to your own standards.
No, my standards are to go with the evidence. The stronger the evidence for something, the stronger is my confidence.
In the case of gods, the evidence is practically nil. If you exclude loony type anecdotes, or regard them as practically worthless, which I do.

In cases like this, anecdotes of a non scientific nature, I regard it as not worth the effort of pursuing.
Maybe I'm missing the one instance of a genuine intervention by the creator of the universe.
I don't give a fuck. The odds of that being the case are miniscule.

I don't think the onus is on me to disprove every anecdote from every loony or liar.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by Seth » Sun May 17, 2015 7:32 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:The anger is exaggerated for comedic effect. Look him up on youtube. He's Australian. That's why you haven't heard of him. i.e. he's not a Merkin.
Well, he's also not all that funny, which is a more likely explanation.

He also needs a hair stylist and he looks like an EMO-girl.
I bet he gets FAR more pussy than you. :tea:
Something tells me it's not pussy he's in search of...not that his sexual proclivities are of any particular interest to me...or anyone. Besides, the kind of pussy that he would get I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole while wearing a Level 4 biohazard suit.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by Seth » Sun May 17, 2015 7:41 pm

mistermack wrote:
Seth wrote: Did the doctors get it wrong? Credulous religious faith in the incompetence of doctors is not an explanation for the events cited. Critically robust scientific evidence of their error is required, according to your own standards.
No, my standards are to go with the evidence.


Evidently you're either lying or you're delusional because in this case you are NOT going with the evidence.
The stronger the evidence for something, the stronger is my confidence.
Legally dead teenage girl medical science has given up on because of the severity of the insult to the brain suddenly, unexpectedly and without medical or scientific explanation recovers.

That's the evidence. Please explain, using valid reason and logic how it is rational to arbitrarily dismiss the possibility of divine intervention in this event.
In the case of gods, the evidence is practically nil. If you exclude loony type anecdotes, or regard them as practically worthless, which I do.
Denial of evidence is not evidence of falsity of the evidence.
In cases like this, anecdotes of a non scientific nature, I regard it as not worth the effort of pursuing.
What's "non scientific" about a teenage girl with an all-but-universally fatal brain injury suddenly and inexplicably recovering? Are you really so dogmatically resistant to reason that you reject one possible answer when the evidence is staring you in the face? And if it's not divine intervention, then, as I asked, please provide a rational scientific explanation of how this event came to pass. Simply denying it is intellectually bankrupt and scientifically insufficient. It happened. Either there's a "natural" explanation for it or there's a "supernatural" explanation for it. So which is it, and why?
Maybe I'm missing the one instance of a genuine intervention by the creator of the universe.
I don't give a fuck. The odds of that being the case are miniscule.

I don't think the onus is on me to disprove every anecdote from every loony or liar.
So now you're claiming that the event did not happen and that the girl was not legally brain dead and did not suddenly and unexpectedly recover? The evidence before us suggests that you are merely being evasive by attempting to deny that the event occurred when all the evidence in hand points to certainty that the event did occur. Therefore, since you are claiming that the report is false, it is up to you to substantiate your claim of journalistic fraud or be dismissed as a crank.
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Re: 'Splain this one Atheists...

Post by rachelbean » Sun May 17, 2015 8:54 pm

Tim Minchin is married with kids. He's not physically my type, but that wit and talent makes him sexy as hell :swoon:

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