Seth wrote:Animavore wrote:Jesus, by his own words, did not mean for the old laws to be overturned.
Which law are you talking about? Which law was Jesus talking about? Be specific.
You asked the same question only three weeks ago in
this post. I replied to it "The law of the prophets, or as you put it, all the rules established by the Old Testament."
The Biblical reference is actually
Matthew 5:17 and goes like this: "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law
or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill." Verse 18 continues: "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away,
not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19"Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven;" In short, specifically every law the prophets wrote down in the Old Testament.
Seth wrote: Which was he referring to, God's laws as written by his finger on stone tablets or Jewish custom and laws created by other than God?
In those days no distinction was made between secular and divine laws. Besides, Jesus said he meant "everything". There is no qualification to "not one jot".
Seth wrote:Or perhaps he was referring to civil law, as in "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, render unto God what is God's."
That is not part of what the prophets Jesus referred to had written.
Seth wrote:More importantly, the quote "... until all is accomplished" can be (and is) read to mean that Jesus' purpose on earth has been accomplished, which again in his own (reported) words means until he dies on the cross, his last words being "it is finished" or "it is accomplished" depending on how it's translated.
Read on to Verse 18: "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away..." It's pretty clear what he meant throughout.
Note, for the sake of the argument I pretend that the biblical Jesus actually existed.