Iraq is finished.

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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by JimC » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:02 pm

I'm waiting till the shiite hits the fan...
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by Tyrannical » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:00 am

Ship all the refuges back to Iraq and make them fight. Escape shouldn't be an option.
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by rainbow » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:28 am

Tyrannical wrote:Ship all the refuges back to Iraq and make them fight. Escape shouldn't be an option.
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by Elderito » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:08 am

mistermack wrote:The only thing that would keep that lot in line is sheer terror.

Saddam Hussein was able to keep them in fear of their lives. A democratic law-abiding government doesn't stand a chance.
I said the same thing about 6 years ago on RDF and was called RACIST.

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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by cronus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:02 am

Elderito wrote:
mistermack wrote:The only thing that would keep that lot in line is sheer terror.

Saddam Hussein was able to keep them in fear of their lives. A democratic law-abiding government doesn't stand a chance.
I said the same thing about 6 years ago on RDF and was called RACIST.
Maybe you fail to realise how fast societies can either progress or regress? That's really a absence of imagination issue. :coffee:
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by Warren Dew » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:13 am

Elderito wrote:
mistermack wrote:The only thing that would keep that lot in line is sheer terror.

Saddam Hussein was able to keep them in fear of their lives. A democratic law-abiding government doesn't stand a chance.
I said the same thing about 6 years ago on RDF and was called RACIST.
Here we just don't bother to call it.

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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by Hermit » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:04 am

Elderito wrote:
mistermack wrote:The only thing that would keep that lot in line is sheer terror.

Saddam Hussein was able to keep them in fear of their lives. A democratic law-abiding government doesn't stand a chance.
I said the same thing about 6 years ago on RDF and was called RACIST.
That's just standard operational procedure. Every time I criticise muslim theocracies, I am accused of being a racist. Every time I criticise Israeli oppression, I am accused of being a racist. Sceptics, atheists, rationalists are no less deluded about their intellectual prowess than anyone else. That's why I especially despise those people who want to be known as Brights. Arrogant arsewipes. No better than our chief DKhead.
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by cronus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:16 am

Hermit wrote:
Elderito wrote:
mistermack wrote:The only thing that would keep that lot in line is sheer terror.

Saddam Hussein was able to keep them in fear of their lives. A democratic law-abiding government doesn't stand a chance.
I said the same thing about 6 years ago on RDF and was called RACIST.
That's just standard operational procedure. Every time I criticise muslim theocracies, I am accused of being a racist. Every time I criticise Israeli oppression, I am accused of being a racist. Sceptics, atheists, rationalists are no less deluded about their intellectual prowess than anyone else. That's why I especially despise those people who want to be known as Brights. Arrogant arsewipes. No better than our chief DKhead.
I'm a Bright, knew I had a peer group somewhere. :nono:
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by Tyrannical » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:11 am

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/ ... QH20140613

Looks like our old ally Iran is willing to help :{D
Shi'te Muslim Iran is so alarmed by Sunni insurgent gains in Iraq that it may be willing to cooperate with Washington in helping Baghdad fight back, a senior Iranian official told Reuters.
The idea is being discussed internally among the Islamic Republic's leadership, the senior Iranian official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official had no word on whether the idea had been raised with any other party.
Officials say Iran will send its neighbor advisers and weaponry, although probably not troops, to help its ally Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki check what Tehran sees as a profound threat to regional stability, officials and analysts say.
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by JimC » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:14 am

Let them slaughter each other based on a fractionally different interpretation of their chosen sky fairy...

Fuck 'em all...
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by cronus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:14 am

Tyrannical wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/ ... QH20140613

Looks like our old ally Iran is willing to help :{D
Shi'te Muslim Iran is so alarmed by Sunni insurgent gains in Iraq that it may be willing to cooperate with Washington in helping Baghdad fight back, a senior Iranian official told Reuters.
The idea is being discussed internally among the Islamic Republic's leadership, the senior Iranian official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official had no word on whether the idea had been raised with any other party.
Officials say Iran will send its neighbor advisers and weaponry, although probably not troops, to help its ally Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki check what Tehran sees as a profound threat to regional stability, officials and analysts say.
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by Warren Dew » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:40 am

Scumple wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/ ... QH20140613

Looks like our old ally Iran is willing to help :{D
Shi'te Muslim Iran is so alarmed by Sunni insurgent gains in Iraq that it may be willing to cooperate with Washington in helping Baghdad fight back, a senior Iranian official told Reuters.
The idea is being discussed internally among the Islamic Republic's leadership, the senior Iranian official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official had no word on whether the idea had been raised with any other party.
Officials say Iran will send its neighbor advisers and weaponry, although probably not troops, to help its ally Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki check what Tehran sees as a profound threat to regional stability, officials and analysts say.
The enemy of my enemy is a interesting partner. :hilarious:
Problem is, Iran's a bigger enemy than ISIS.

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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by cronus » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:43 am

Warren Dew wrote:
Scumple wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/ ... QH20140613

Looks like our old ally Iran is willing to help :{D
Shi'te Muslim Iran is so alarmed by Sunni insurgent gains in Iraq that it may be willing to cooperate with Washington in helping Baghdad fight back, a senior Iranian official told Reuters.
The idea is being discussed internally among the Islamic Republic's leadership, the senior Iranian official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official had no word on whether the idea had been raised with any other party.
Officials say Iran will send its neighbor advisers and weaponry, although probably not troops, to help its ally Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki check what Tehran sees as a profound threat to regional stability, officials and analysts say.
The enemy of my enemy is a interesting partner. :hilarious:
Problem is, Iran's a bigger enemy than ISIS.
Let them get on with it. The survivors will be in no hurry to fight another war whichever side wins. :demon:
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by Hermit » Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:00 am

Iran will be only too happy to relieve the "democratic" government of Iran of the burden of operating and maintaining the 15billion dollars worth of military hardware the USA has bequeathed to it. That'll be such a beautiful gesture, but it won't come as a surprise. Iran and Iraq are friends. Iran and Iraq have always been friends.

But then comes the problem of what to do with all that gear. The solution is obvious. Much of it will finish up elsewhere in the Middle East - Syria to start off with. The most extreme end of the Muslim spectrum will be most happy with Allah having provided them with the wherewithal necessary to more speedily and efficiently spread theocracy via Jihad.

The utter stupidity with which US governments persist conducting foreign policy is breathtaking.
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Re: Iraq is finished.

Post by laklak » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:56 pm

Calling U.S. foreign policy breathtakingly stupid is damning it with faint praise and an insult to breathtakingly stupid people the world over. They've spent trillions of dollars of tax payer money, mortgaged the whole fucking country to the Chinese, wasted thousands of lives, armed the enemy for the next generation and for what? Fucking place is worse off then when we went in. These wet-brained imbeciles couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery. They fucking disgust me, the job lot.
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