How is this shit possible? Woman refused abortion, dies

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Post by JimC » Thu May 02, 2013 7:03 am

He should be a stand-up comedian...

"Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"

"It's a gun, bitch!"

"Bang"

He would absolutely slay an audience...
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Post by Seth » Thu May 02, 2013 6:27 pm

MiM wrote:And you think that's not the case in other countries? You are absolutely hilarious :fp2: :funny:
It's not the case, even though it may seem to be, because the citizens of other countries have no way at all to enforce ANY change to the form or detail of a government which they have allowed to disarm them...if those in power choose not to honor the written social contract and choose instead to cling to power and abuse the unarmed citizenry to benefit themselves, as every tin-pot dictator in history has done.

You just don't think it can happen to you. But then again, nobody is tyrannized and oppressed because they thought it was going to happen, they are all taken by surprise, and force, because they are not skeptical enough of those in power to retain the ultimate safeguard against t;yranny; their personal arms.

The thing about an armed citizenry is that the law abiding elements (who are the only ones affected by gun control laws) are perfectly harmless to the community unless and until there's some emergency that requires them to take up arms together. This is proven by the fact that there are close to 300 million firearms in circulation in the US, with hundreds of thousands entering circulation every year, and only the tiniest fraction, in the thousandths of a percent of all those guns are ever used to commit crimes or even the cause of accidental harm.
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Post by MiM » Thu May 02, 2013 6:52 pm

Goalposts, Seth, goalposts. :fp2:
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Post by Seth » Thu May 02, 2013 10:19 pm

MiM wrote:Goalposts, Seth, goalposts. :fp2:
Not my fault you don't understand the logic involved. Nothing's changed and the RKBA is still intended as a bulwark against tyranny, and always has been.
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Post by MiM » Fri May 03, 2013 6:21 am

We were talking about democracy as the tyranny of the majority, and then you start talking about the ruling class usurping power :dunno:

If the majority of the people is behind the change that you resist, and it would come to a conflict with weapons, you would have most of those guns pointing against you, wouldn't you?
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Post by JimC » Fri May 03, 2013 7:45 am

MiM wrote:We were talking about democracy as the tyranny of the majority, and then you start talking about the ruling class usurping power :dunno:

If the majority of the people is behind the change that you resist, and it would come to a conflict with weapons, you would have most of those guns pointing against you, wouldn't you?
In his arrogance, he would consider those folk non-Sethian sheeples, with poor martial skills, to be swept aside as "enemies of the people", majority be damned...

The extreme left and the extreme right soon meet, in their utter disregard for others, worship of absolutist principles and determination to let the ends justify the means...
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Post by Seth » Sat May 04, 2013 3:59 am

MiM wrote:We were talking about democracy as the tyranny of the majority, and then you start talking about the ruling class usurping power :dunno:
Despotism and tyranny can come from either direction. It's all equally bad. Pointing out the nature of majoritarian tyranny does not impeach the nature of imperial tyranny.
If the majority of the people is behind the change that you resist, and it would come to a conflict with weapons, you would have most of those guns pointing against you, wouldn't you?
Depends on the nature of the change I suppose. But, nobody said it was easy to fight majoritarian tyranny. That's why we're so determined to keep our arms, so that we can do so as effectively as possible if necessary. Fortunately for us, the Socialist sheeple almost universally bow to their Marxist masters and docilly surrender the very arms they would need to impose socialist tyranny on liberty loving people.

And that's another reason we won't give up our arms.
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Post by MiM » Sat May 04, 2013 5:28 am

I jumped into this discussion, because you voiced a blatantly false view of democracy, I have no whatsoever interest in discussing guns with you.

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:tup: :clap: :tup:
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat May 04, 2013 6:37 am

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Post by JimC » Sat May 04, 2013 6:41 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Bertrand - if you weren't dead, and male, and married - I would make you mine in an instant! :swoon:
Which of the three worries you the most? :tea:
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat May 04, 2013 6:51 am

JimC wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Bertrand - if you weren't dead, and male, and married - I would make you mine in an instant! :swoon:
Which of the three worries you the most? :tea:
Well that's easy! It's the... but... oh, I suppose it could be... or even... Damn you, you antipodean trickster and your insidiously unanswerable questions!!1!!1!1 :lay:
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Post by JimC » Sat May 04, 2013 6:54 am

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Post by Animavore » Sat May 04, 2013 7:01 am

Back on topic - I'm just watching a repeat of RTÉ's, Prime Time on the abortion issue and the pro-lifers are not coming out well at all.
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Post by Animavore » Sat May 04, 2013 7:57 am

Not coming off well at all. Their all-or-nothing attitude is a disgrace. They're against women having an abortion if their child has a fatal abnormality. A woman here is talking about having to go to England to get an abortion when her child was diagnosed as anencephalic and saying that Malta and Ireland are the only countries in Europe where women are made to carry these children through, that if she was in Poland or Belguim or anywhere else she would get it done and the anti-abortionist says, "Yes, but all those countries are countries which don't repect life"! Fucking unbelievable!
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