How is this shit possible? Woman refused abortion, dies

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Re: How is this shit possible? Woman refused abortion, dies

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:21 pm

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klr wrote:As you can imagine, this is now the #1 news story here. It took up the first 30 minutes of the main lunchtime radio news bulletin on RTE (state radio).
Good. "Evil flees the light of day."
Unfortunately, it also shows that there are still a lot of backward people around. You might think you're making progress on social issues, but just watch what crawls out of the woodwork once something like this gets debated in public. I'm looking at a thread on the main Irish political forum, and it is not a pretty sight.
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Post by Azathoth » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:35 pm

klr wrote:As it so happens ... an export report on Irish abortion law (such that it is) was delivered last night:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingne ... 74183.html
What do they call experts over there? Doctors or bible thumpers?
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Re: How is this shit possible?

Post by klr » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:42 pm

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klr wrote:As it so happens ... an export report on Irish abortion law (such that it is) was delivered last night:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingne ... 74183.html
What do they call experts over there? Doctors or bible thumpers?
It's a case of public representatives being too afraid of a divisive issue to actually put forward concrete proposals to address it. It's not exactly a vote-winner to be seen as decisive on this. Sad, but true.
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Now absolutely dominating the "drive-time" discussion programs on various radio stations.
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Post by redunderthebed » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:18 pm

The catholic church continues to make peoples lives a misery a organisation with 18th century values has no place in the 21st century.

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Post by Animavore » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:26 pm

:shock: I thought we had provision for abortion in cases where the woman's life was in danger?

I hope this leads to them changing this stupid law. Jesus it's like Vera Drake in this country.
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Post by klr » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:29 pm

Animavore wrote::shock: I thought we had provision for abortion in cases where the woman's life was in danger?

I hope this leads to them changing this stupid law. Jesus it's like Vera Drake in this country.
So did I, but apparently the legal situation is not that clear, even though the foetus was not viable in this case. :nono:
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Post by Animavore » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:37 pm

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Animavore wrote::shock: I thought we had provision for abortion in cases where the woman's life was in danger?

I hope this leads to them changing this stupid law. Jesus it's like Vera Drake in this country.
So did I, but apparently the legal situation is not that clear, even though the foetus was not viable in this case. :nono:
I'm not convinced that would've happened in all hospitals, particularly not ones in Dublin (not a dig). Is this hospital a particularly religious one? I find it hard to believe not one doctor or midwife there said, "Laws be damned. Let's get this woman onto an operating table."
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Post by Cormac » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:13 pm

Just to point out that this is not a result of the state of the law or constitution in Ireland. Terminations are perfectly compatible with the law and prevailing medical ethics in Ireland. This has been the case for many years.

What is not permitted is abortion outside the circumstances of a threat to the mother's life.
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Cormac wrote:Just to point out that this is not a result of the state of the law or constitution in Ireland. Terminations are perfectly compatible with the law and prevailing medical ethics in Ireland. This has been the case for many years.

What is not permitted is abortion outside the circumstances of a threat to the mother's life.
Dead mother, case closed.
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I wonder if they let her die because she was a pagan?
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Cormac wrote:Just to point out that this is not a result of the state of the law or constitution in Ireland. Terminations are perfectly compatible with the law and prevailing medical ethics in Ireland. This has been the case for many years.

What is not permitted is abortion outside the circumstances of a threat to the mother's life.
Dead mother, case closed.

My point being that the fault does not lie with the law, but with the doctor and medical team who accepted this stupid decision.
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Re: How is this shit possible? Woman refused abortion, dies

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:24 pm

Cormac wrote:
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Cormac wrote:Just to point out that this is not a result of the state of the law or constitution in Ireland. Terminations are perfectly compatible with the law and prevailing medical ethics in Ireland. This has been the case for many years.

What is not permitted is abortion outside the circumstances of a threat to the mother's life.
Dead mother, case closed.

My point being that the fault does not lie with the law, but with the doctor and medical team who accepted this stupid decision.
What I meant was that the mother died, so the doctors should have acted. I agree with the law to that extent.
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Post by Seth » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:24 pm

Guess she should have stayed in Pakistan or whatever shithole 'stan she came from. I'm sure she could have gotten an abortion on demand there... :bored:
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Post by Animavore » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:25 pm

Seth wrote:Guess she should have stayed in Pakistan or whatever shithole 'stan she came from. I'm sure she could have gotten an abortion on demand there... :bored:
She's Indian you fucking ignorant buffoon.
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