Ah, two bigots in sync. Get a room.Tyrannical wrote:State sponsored Atheism is the new kid on the block too being under a century old, but in it's short time the body count has been quite impressive.Seth wrote:Which of course isn't true. They are.Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The whole point of the OP was simply to point out again that the old dog of "atheists are the greatest mass murders in history" simply isn't true.
90-200 million dead.
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— from The Atheist Experience Blog: A response to Ravi Zacharias’ “Six Questions to Ask an Atheist”Atheist Experience blog wrote:
In the case of the examples given, atheism is neither necessary nor sufficient to be identified as the cause of the actions taken. In truth, the atrocities were the result of belief systems which, while consistent with atheism, are not caused by atheism. You simply cannot draw a causal chain from “I do not believe a god exists” to “I’m going to destroy religious organizations and religious people” without an additional belief — and it is that belief that would be the cause of the atrocities.
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According to whom?Thinking Aloud wrote:They weren't True Christians though.
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If Satan is behind them, it's still within the christian mythos.Audley Strange wrote:If we tally up all the serial killers inspired by Satan we might be up to about, at best, a few thousand.
That settles it. Atheism is out.
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Wow really? Well fuck me I thought it was part of Lovecraft's oeuvre.Svartalf wrote:If Satan is behind them, it's still within the christian mythos.Audley Strange wrote:If we tally up all the serial killers inspired by Satan we might be up to about, at best, a few thousand.
That settles it. Atheism is out.
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No devil in Lovecraft, ask Miss Jones.
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rasetsu wrote:— from The Atheist Experience Blog: A response to Ravi Zacharias’ “Six Questions to Ask an Atheist”Atheist Experience blog wrote:
In the case of the examples given, atheism is neither necessary nor sufficient to be identified as the cause of the actions taken. In truth, the atrocities were the result of belief systems which, while consistent with atheism, are not caused by atheism. You simply cannot draw a causal chain from “I do not believe a god exists” to “I’m going to destroy religious organizations and religious people” without an additional belief — and it is that belief that would be the cause of the atrocities.
Nice try, but wrong. Just because there is a chain of beliefs attached to atheism doesn't mean that atheism is not the root cause, or at least a large factor in such a decision. It's no more appropriate to say that atheism is not at the root of atheistic atrocities than it is to say that religion is at the root of religious atrocities. If we accept this silly argument, then atheists make the same error every time they blame religion for what's clearly an "additional belief" associated with religion, particularly when it comes to Christianity, which New Testament-wise, is all about peace, love and not judging people...whereas atheism is about nihilistic nothingness that leaves the individual without any cultural moral compass and therefore free to make, and rationalize whatever moral and ethical decisions best suit their own individual or group tastes at the time. This has been amply demonstrated time and time again by atheistic regimes that completely change all the ordinary "religion-based" rules of morality and society in vain and usually deadly attempts to reinvent that which has evolved in human behavior precisely because of religion and it's cohesive social effects.
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"If anyone does not remain joined to me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and dries up. Branches like those are picked up. They are thrown into the fire and burned."
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Yes...rasetsu wrote:"If anyone does not remain joined to me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and dries up. Branches like those are picked up. They are thrown into the fire and burned."
Jesus Christ
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A lot of selective reading of the bible goes into the creation of the "gentle Jesus, meek and mild" tenet of christianity...
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some lovely 'athiestic' goings on all over the middle east at present as a result of some crappy film insulting some mythical character said to have lived a long time ago and revered by large numbers of people, some of whom are having a whale of a time burning things, breaking things, and yelling for death to lots of people - all in the name of religion.
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I do admit I prefer that one to the "with me or against me" Jesus ""Holey Warrior" that emerges from other passages.JimC wrote:Yes...rasetsu wrote:"If anyone does not remain joined to me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and dries up. Branches like those are picked up. They are thrown into the fire and burned."
Jesus Christ
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A lot of selective reading of the bible goes into the creation of the "gentle Jesus, meek and mild" tenet of christianity...
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He's just telling you what his Father will do if you don't "remain joined" with him. It's a warning, not a threat.rasetsu wrote:"If anyone does not remain joined to me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and dries up. Branches like those are picked up. They are thrown into the fire and burned."
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It's like saying "Hey, don't jump into that thermal pool or you'll get burnt," or "Hey, don't step off that ledge or you'll fall to your death."
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Yeah, religious zealotry is a bad thing, whether it's seen in theists or Atheists. Still, all of Islam throughout history are pikers compared to Atheists Stalin and Mao.jaydot wrote:some lovely 'athiestic' goings on all over the middle east at present as a result of some crappy film insulting some mythical character said to have lived a long time ago and revered by large numbers of people, some of whom are having a whale of a time burning things, breaking things, and yelling for death to lots of people - all in the name of religion.
some people cannot resist the kool aid.
"Seth is Grandmaster Zen Troll who trains his victims to troll themselves every time they think of him" Robert_S
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
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...or "You'll go to Mordor if you're not good."
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You miss the point. I'm an atheist - do you think I'm a potential Stalin?Seth wrote: Yeah, religious zealotry is a bad thing, whether it's seen in theists or Atheists. Still, all of Islam throughout history are pikers compared to Atheists Stalin and Mao.
Hitler called himself a Christian - do you think anyone here blames Christianity for Naziism?
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