That's a pretty good proof of the non-existence of God right there.Robert_S wrote:Wasn't he that pervert that got caught nailing the church mouse whore?Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
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Anyway, Rationalia mostly contains ultra-unorthodox atheists...Gawdzilla Sama wrote:That's a pretty good proof of the non-existence of God right there.Robert_S wrote:Wasn't he that pervert that got caught nailing the church mouse whore?Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
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I'm up for it, lock and load.Pappa wrote:Oh dang! Does this mean that we'll have to kill all the A+ lot as well as the religionist when the First Great Atheist Holy War begins?

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To my memory, this has the be the first ever schism in the skeptic/atheism movement. I challenge anyone to think of another.... oh wait!
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http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=7728DaveDodo007 wrote:I'm up for it, lock and load.Pappa wrote:Oh dang! Does this mean that we'll have to kill all the A+ lot as well as the religionist when the First Great Atheist Holy War begins?
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anti-LabelistTrinity wrote:rachelbean wrote:Me being an atheist means I don't have a belief in god(s). End of. You can't make me part of your movement or community because of something I don't believe. I don't want a credo or a platform and I don't want any priests. I choose who my community is (shockingly, not all atheists) and what I believe or support, and those things can change if I feel like it. Social justice and human rights are things I support but they have fuck all to do with atheism. For fucks sake it's amazing how people pat themselves on the back for "breaking free from the chains of religion" just so they can make shinier versions
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Did you know...?Kristie wrote:deja vu......Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
There is a 'jamais vu'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamais_vu
There is a 'presque vu'.
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Wiki is wrong I think. presque vu means 'out-of-the-corner-of-the-eye' but when you look closely what you thought you saw was not there.
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I used to experience jamais vu with words. I distinctly remember a time in the fourth grade when, after thinking about the word multiple times, I couldn't figure out what the word "the" meant.
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You shall worship no god before me for they don't exist.JimC wrote:Anyway, Rationalia mostly contains ultra-unorthodox atheists...Gawdzilla Sama wrote:That's a pretty good proof of the non-existence of God right there.Robert_S wrote:Wasn't he that pervert that got caught nailing the church mouse whore?Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
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I've experienced that also. It's not hard to induce: just say any word over and over, and eventually it loses meaning. One of my favorite novelists, Russell Hoban, said it well in Amaryllis Night and Day: "Names are pretty useless, really. If you say the name of anything ten or twenty times it scatters and falls away and the thing that’s named stands there all naked and unknowable."rasetsu wrote:I used to experience jamais vu with words. I distinctly remember a time in the fourth grade when, after thinking about the word multiple times, I couldn't figure out what the word "the" meant.
The phenomenon can be quite frightening when it takes on bigger proportions. Years ago, on my way to work, I emerged from my usual subway station in midtown Manhattan, and realized that although I knew all the buildings and streets in that neighborhood, everything was in some weird way entirely unfamiliar. I was paralyzed, because I couldn't navigate at all. I just stood there not knowing which way to go. A very odd feeling. Eventually it abated, but it was quite alarming while it lasted.
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When I've experienced that I've had the same feeling (though not as dramatically as you describe above). I felt very... untethered and distant from everything else. In a minor way that's what I feel like when it happens with words.orpheus wrote:I've experienced that also. It's not hard to induce: just say any word over and over, and eventually it loses meaning. One of my favorite novelists, Russell Hoban, said it well in Amaryllis Night and Day: "Names are pretty useless, really. If you say the name of anything ten or twenty times it scatters and falls away and the thing that’s named stands there all naked and unknowable."rasetsu wrote:I used to experience jamais vu with words. I distinctly remember a time in the fourth grade when, after thinking about the word multiple times, I couldn't figure out what the word "the" meant.
The phenomenon can be quite frightening when it takes on bigger proportions. Years ago, on my way to work, I emerged from my usual subway station in midtown Manhattan, and realized that although I knew all the buildings and streets in that neighborhood, everything was in some weird way entirely unfamiliar. I was paralyzed, because I couldn't navigate at all. I just stood there not knowing which way to go. A very odd feeling. Eventually it abated, but it was quite alarming while it lasted.
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That's interesting. If, for example, you say "shoe" 100 times and then look at your hand....
...nothing much happens. Isn't that remarkable?
...nothing much happens. Isn't that remarkable?

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Boo Hiss, I'm aware of this thread.Pappa wrote:http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=7728DaveDodo007 wrote:I'm up for it, lock and load.Pappa wrote:Oh dang! Does this mean that we'll have to kill all the A+ lot as well as the religionist when the First Great Atheist Holy War begins?




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