Atheist Dogma/Creed

Holy Crap!
User avatar
Gawdzilla Sama
Stabsobermaschinist
Posts: 151265
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:52 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
Wasn't he that pervert that got caught nailing the church mouse whore?
That's a pretty good proof of the non-existence of God right there.
Image
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”

User avatar
JimC
The sentimental bloke
Posts: 74162
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:58 am
About me: To be serious about gin requires years of dedicated research.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by JimC » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:26 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
Wasn't he that pervert that got caught nailing the church mouse whore?
That's a pretty good proof of the non-existence of God right there.
Anyway, Rationalia mostly contains ultra-unorthodox atheists...
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
And my gin!

User avatar
DaveDodo007
Posts: 2975
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:35 am
About me: When ever I behave as a man I am called sexist, It seems being a male is now illegal and nobody sent me the memo. Good job as I would have told them to fuck off.
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by DaveDodo007 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:30 am

Pappa wrote:Oh dang! Does this mean that we'll have to kill all the A+ lot as well as the religionist when the First Great Atheist Holy War begins?
I'm up for it, lock and load. :lay:
We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.

User avatar
Brian Peacock
Tipping cows since 1946
Posts: 39953
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:44 am
About me: Ablate me:
Location: Location: Location:
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:13 pm

"In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by an ecclesiastical court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security priory to the Lyme Regis underground. Today, still wanted by the Pope, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A++Team."
Rationalia relies on voluntary donations. There is no obligation of course, but if you value this place and want to see it continue please consider making a small donation towards the forum's running costs.
Details on how to do that can be found here.

.

"It isn't necessary to imagine the world ending in fire or ice.
There are two other possibilities: one is paperwork, and the other is nostalgia."

Frank Zappa

"This is how humanity ends; bickering over the irrelevant."
Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
.

User avatar
orpheus
Posts: 1522
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:43 am
About me: The name is Epictetus. Waldo Epictetus.
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by orpheus » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:21 pm

:pop:

(Uncle Orph'sTM popcorn - "Grade A±" )
I think that language has a lot to do with interfering in our relationship to direct experience. A simple thing like metaphor will allows you to go to a place and say 'this is like that'. Well, this isn't like that. This is like this.

—Richard Serra

User avatar
cowiz
Shirley
Posts: 16482
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:56 pm
About me: Head up a camels arse
Location: Colorado
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by cowiz » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:28 pm

To my memory, this has the be the first ever schism in the skeptic/atheism movement. I challenge anyone to think of another.... oh wait!
It's a piece of piss to be cowiz, but it's not cowiz to be a piece of piss. Or something like that.

User avatar
Pappa
Non-Practicing Anarchist
Non-Practicing Anarchist
Posts: 56488
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:42 am
About me: I am sacrificing a turnip as I type.
Location: Le sud du Pays de Galles.
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by Pappa » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:37 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
Pappa wrote:Oh dang! Does this mean that we'll have to kill all the A+ lot as well as the religionist when the First Great Atheist Holy War begins?
I'm up for it, lock and load. :lay:
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=7728
For information on ways to help support Rationalia financially, see our funding page.


When the aliens do come, everything we once thought was cool will then make us ashamed.

User avatar
colubridae
Custom Rank: Rank
Posts: 2771
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:16 pm
About me: http://www.essentialart.com/acatalog/Ed ... Stars.html
Location: Birmingham art gallery
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by colubridae » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:35 am

Trinity wrote:
rachelbean wrote:Me being an atheist means I don't have a belief in god(s). End of. You can't make me part of your movement or community because of something I don't believe. I don't want a credo or a platform and I don't want any priests. I choose who my community is (shockingly, not all atheists) and what I believe or support, and those things can change if I feel like it. Social justice and human rights are things I support but they have fuck all to do with atheism. For fucks sake it's amazing how people pat themselves on the back for "breaking free from the chains of religion" just so they can make shinier versions :fp:

:tup:

I don't call myself an atheist, it's a label and I don't like labels and I think that I am so many things that identifying with just one of those things is,in my eyes, detrimental.
anti-Labelist :hehe:
I have a well balanced personality. I've got chips on both shoulders

User avatar
colubridae
Custom Rank: Rank
Posts: 2771
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:16 pm
About me: http://www.essentialart.com/acatalog/Ed ... Stars.html
Location: Birmingham art gallery
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by colubridae » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:41 am

Kristie wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote::gaah:
deja vu...... :?
Did you know...?

There is a 'jamais vu'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamais_vu



There is a 'presque vu'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_of_the_tongue
Wiki is wrong I think. presque vu means 'out-of-the-corner-of-the-eye' but when you look closely what you thought you saw was not there.

call svarty
I have a well balanced personality. I've got chips on both shoulders

User avatar
rasetsu
Ne'er-do-well
Posts: 5123
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:04 pm
About me: Move along. Nothing to see here.
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by rasetsu » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:50 am




I used to experience jamais vu with words. I distinctly remember a time in the fourth grade when, after thinking about the word multiple times, I couldn't figure out what the word "the" meant.



User avatar
Svartalf
Offensive Grail Keeper
Posts: 41043
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:42 pm
Location: Paris France
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by Svartalf » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:56 am

JimC wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Seth wrote:I love it when ultra-orthodox religious Atheists argue about church doctrine. Martin Luther is laughing his ass off right now.
Wasn't he that pervert that got caught nailing the church mouse whore?
That's a pretty good proof of the non-existence of God right there.
Anyway, Rationalia mostly contains ultra-unorthodox atheists...
You shall worship no god before me for they don't exist.
Embrace the Darkness, it needs a hug

PC stands for "Patronizing Cocksucker" Randy Ping

User avatar
orpheus
Posts: 1522
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:43 am
About me: The name is Epictetus. Waldo Epictetus.
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by orpheus » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:45 pm

rasetsu wrote:I used to experience jamais vu with words. I distinctly remember a time in the fourth grade when, after thinking about the word multiple times, I couldn't figure out what the word "the" meant.
I've experienced that also. It's not hard to induce: just say any word over and over, and eventually it loses meaning. One of my favorite novelists, Russell Hoban, said it well in Amaryllis Night and Day: "Names are pretty useless, really. If you say the name of anything ten or twenty times it scatters and falls away and the thing that’s named stands there all naked and unknowable."

The phenomenon can be quite frightening when it takes on bigger proportions. Years ago, on my way to work, I emerged from my usual subway station in midtown Manhattan, and realized that although I knew all the buildings and streets in that neighborhood, everything was in some weird way entirely unfamiliar. I was paralyzed, because I couldn't navigate at all. I just stood there not knowing which way to go. A very odd feeling. Eventually it abated, but it was quite alarming while it lasted.
I think that language has a lot to do with interfering in our relationship to direct experience. A simple thing like metaphor will allows you to go to a place and say 'this is like that'. Well, this isn't like that. This is like this.

—Richard Serra

User avatar
Bella Fortuna
Sister Golden Hair
Posts: 79685
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:45 am
About me: Being your slave, what should I do but tend
Upon the hours and times of your desire?
I have no precious time at all to spend,
Nor services to do, till you require.
Location: Scotlifornia
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by Bella Fortuna » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:06 pm

orpheus wrote:
rasetsu wrote:I used to experience jamais vu with words. I distinctly remember a time in the fourth grade when, after thinking about the word multiple times, I couldn't figure out what the word "the" meant.
I've experienced that also. It's not hard to induce: just say any word over and over, and eventually it loses meaning. One of my favorite novelists, Russell Hoban, said it well in Amaryllis Night and Day: "Names are pretty useless, really. If you say the name of anything ten or twenty times it scatters and falls away and the thing that’s named stands there all naked and unknowable."

The phenomenon can be quite frightening when it takes on bigger proportions. Years ago, on my way to work, I emerged from my usual subway station in midtown Manhattan, and realized that although I knew all the buildings and streets in that neighborhood, everything was in some weird way entirely unfamiliar. I was paralyzed, because I couldn't navigate at all. I just stood there not knowing which way to go. A very odd feeling. Eventually it abated, but it was quite alarming while it lasted.
When I've experienced that I've had the same feeling (though not as dramatically as you describe above). I felt very... untethered and distant from everything else. In a minor way that's what I feel like when it happens with words.
Sent from my Bollocksberry using Crapatalk.
Image
Food, cooking, and disreputable nonsense: http://miscreantsdiner.blogspot.com/

User avatar
Brian Peacock
Tipping cows since 1946
Posts: 39953
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:44 am
About me: Ablate me:
Location: Location: Location:
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:14 pm

That's interesting. If, for example, you say "shoe" 100 times and then look at your hand....













...nothing much happens. Isn't that remarkable? :tea:
Rationalia relies on voluntary donations. There is no obligation of course, but if you value this place and want to see it continue please consider making a small donation towards the forum's running costs.
Details on how to do that can be found here.

.

"It isn't necessary to imagine the world ending in fire or ice.
There are two other possibilities: one is paperwork, and the other is nostalgia."

Frank Zappa

"This is how humanity ends; bickering over the irrelevant."
Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
.

User avatar
DaveDodo007
Posts: 2975
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:35 am
About me: When ever I behave as a man I am called sexist, It seems being a male is now illegal and nobody sent me the memo. Good job as I would have told them to fuck off.
Contact:

Re: Atheist Dogma/Creed

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:40 am

Pappa wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Pappa wrote:Oh dang! Does this mean that we'll have to kill all the A+ lot as well as the religionist when the First Great Atheist Holy War begins?
I'm up for it, lock and load. :lay:
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=7728
Boo Hiss, I'm aware of this thread. :irate:

:lay: Are my heroics so easily forgotten. :nono: I sent the elite atheist assassination commando squad round to do Stein in. OK I realize there was some controversy because a few innocent ratskep members where killed in the crossfire. Lets face it even their mothers didn't miss them too much, it was just theists trying to create drama to blacken our noble cause. Still where is my medal of honour. :lay:
We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests