Unarmed teen shooting: the debate rages on...

[kiki5711]

No, he didn't. Clearly he anticipated a violent reaction from a potential burglar, which is why he was armed. Duh.

"potential burglar"= profiling
"anticipated a violent reaction=premeditated murder

[kiki5711]

... Martin offered him some skittles. ...

In that case, I'd shoot him too.

zimmerman was mad because they were not the kind he likes.

[Coito ergo sum]

No, he didn't. Clearly he anticipated a violent reaction from a potential burglar, which is why he was armed. Duh.

"potential burglar"= profiling

It's only profiling if the judgment was that Martin was a suspect because he was black. It's not profiling if Zimmerman thought he was suspicious because of his behavior, which is what Zimmerman said on the 911 tape. And, you already said that you didn't think Zimmerman thought Martin was suspicious because he was black, right? Deciding someone is suspicous based on their behavior is not profiling in the least.

What do you call your references to Zimmerman as psycho and paranoid, among other such things?

"anticipated a violent reaction=premeditated murder

On what planet?

[maiforpeace]

No, he didn't. Clearly he anticipated a violent reaction from a potential burglar, which is why he was armed. Duh.

"potential burglar"= profiling

It's only profiling if the judgment was that Martin was a suspect because he was black. It's not profiling if Zimmerman thought he was suspicious because of his behavior, which is what Zimmerman said on the 911 tape. And, you already said that you didn't think Zimmerman thought Martin was suspicious because he was black, right? Deciding someone is suspicous based on their behavior is not profiling in the least.

What do you call your references to Zimmerman as psycho and paranoid, among other such things?

It's still profiling...though not necessarily racial profiling.

[Coito ergo sum]

I also don't think zimm was hell bent on killing martin from the start. But he understemated what kind of reaction he would get from martin,

What reaction did he get from Martin?

Martin offered him some skittles.

No, seriously. You said Zimmerman underestimated the kind of reaction he would get from Martin. What reaction do you think Zimmerman got from Martin?

As far as I can tell, the reaction he got was: Martin looked at him. Martin stared at him. Martin started approaching Zimmerman when Zimmerman was in his truck. Martin ran off.

I thought, from your perspective, that was the last "reaction" Zimmerman got. Wasn't it? Didn't you say many times that you thought Martin was just proceeding on home?

[Coito ergo sum]

No, he didn't. Clearly he anticipated a violent reaction from a potential burglar, which is why he was armed. Duh.

"potential burglar"= profiling

It's only profiling if the judgment was that Martin was a suspect because he was black. It's not profiling if Zimmerman thought he was suspicious because of his behavior, which is what Zimmerman said on the 911 tape. And, you already said that you didn't think Zimmerman thought Martin was suspicious because he was black, right? Deciding someone is suspicous based on their behavior is not profiling in the least.

What do you call your references to Zimmerman as psycho and paranoid, among other such things?

It's still profiling...though not necessarily racial profiling.

If not racial, then what's the basis of the profiling? Height? Weight? Age? Something else?

Profiling is taking preset qualities and inferring suspicion from them.

That is distinct from seeing a particular person doing X, Y and/or Z and inferring that they are suspicious because of those things.

Please explain what the profiling is that you're referring to.

Edit: Calling it profiling to look at someone's behavior is like saying that if the cops see you swerving on the road, they're profiling you as a drunk driver if they pull you over.

[Tyrannical]

No, he didn't. Clearly he anticipated a violent reaction from a potential burglar, which is why he was armed. Duh.

"potential burglar"= profiling
"anticipated a violent reaction=premeditated murder

Black = potentials criminals is just commonsense.
That's the way Blacks act, that is the way they are treated.

[maiforpeace]

No, he didn't. Clearly he anticipated a violent reaction from a potential burglar, which is why he was armed. Duh.

"potential burglar"= profiling
"anticipated a violent reaction=premeditated murder

Black = potentials criminals is just commonsense.
That's the way Blacks act, that is the way they are treated.

I'm so proud that racism is alive and thriving on this forum.

[kiki5711]

Edit: Calling it profiling to look at someone's behavior is like saying that if the cops see you swerving on the road, they're profiling you as a drunk driver if they pull you over.

Bingo! you win a 1,000 dollars

Even if you're not drunk but swerving all over the road, something is not right and they have a duty to pull yu over.

[Tero]

I would like to stick to my guns and dismiss the racism. I'm prejudiced against gun nuts. There may be profiling and they may have a short fuse. But
mainly they are looking for opportunity to be heroes, vigilantes. Kind of like Bush Jr.

[Tyrannical]

No, he didn't. Clearly he anticipated a violent reaction from a potential burglar, which is why he was armed. Duh.

"potential burglar"= profiling
"anticipated a violent reaction=premeditated murder

Black = potentials criminals is just commonsense.
That's the way Blacks act, that is the way they are treated.

I'm so proud that racism is alive and thriving on this forum.

Don't blame me, blame the way Blacks act.
Our ancestors were well aware of it well before Darwin. Yet now we are required to pretend they are equal
White society should not need to suffer the inferiority of the Negro.

[Coito ergo sum]

I would like to stick to my guns and dismiss the racism. I'm prejudiced against gun nuts. There may be profiling and they may have a short fuse. But
mainly they are looking for opportunity to be heroes, vigilantes. Kind of like Bush Jr.

LOL - prejudiced against gun NUTS or gun OWNERS. What is the difference, if any, in your mind?

[Coito ergo sum]

Edit: Calling it profiling to look at someone's behavior is like saying that if the cops see you swerving on the road, they're profiling you as a drunk driver if they pull you over.

Bingo! you win a 1,000 dollars

Even if you're not drunk but swerving all over the road, something is not right and they have a duty to pull yu over.

Right, so someone's BEHAVIOR justifying the suspicion is not profiling. Exactly.

If you think Martin was profiled then please explain what was the profile? You said you didn't think it was race. So, what was it?

[Tero]

I would like to stick to my guns and dismiss the racism. I'm prejudiced against gun nuts. There may be profiling and they may have a short fuse. But
mainly they are looking for opportunity to be heroes, vigilantes. Kind of like Bush Jr.

LOL - prejudiced against gun NUTS or gun OWNERS. What is the difference, if any, in your mind?

Typically gun owners have a life, outside of guns. Nuts do not have a life. Guns need cash. So a job usually.

[kiki5711]

Right, so someone's BEHAVIOR justifying the suspicion is not profiling. Exactly.

I just said that it was profiling. What is your problem with understanding what I say?

If you think Martin was profiled then please explain what was the profile? You said you didn't think it was race. So, what was it?

You said it yourself that zimm thought he was a thief and looked like one, acting strange or something to that effect.....
Dear, THAT IS PROFILING.