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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by JimC » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:23 am

maiforpeace wrote:I give any mom credit for being mom. The problem with a woman not working a day in her life at any other pursuit other than child rearing and running a household is very problematic to me because it's a totally limited world view. For the first lady? Of the United States? Yikes.
My mum worked her butt off between the wars in woollen mills with other working class girls in the 30's, and then she was a WAAAF (Women's Auxillary Australian Air Force) during WW2.

After the war, she married Dad, and raised me, which would have been bloody hard work - she was well into her 40's, and Dad in his 50's when I was born...

Here's to the workers, wherever they may be... :cheers:
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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by kiki5711 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:55 am

What Romney actually said there is that they should get child care assistance. I think what's ugly is the implication of your post that poor women who have to work should just leave their children at home unattended.
That kind of program ALREADY exists. Romney is talking about it like it's some brand new idea. My kids went to a babysitter that was paid by the state for each kid, provided with food stamps for the kids, and had to of course pass some certification period. There is a limit to how many kids one person can have in the house, in order of age, and an assistant is required if more than 5 kids per person. And you have to qualify for that assistance. If you make $1 over the amount in income you don't get the assistance, you might as well not work.

So what he's blabbing about is nothing NEW.

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Post by kiki5711 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:42 pm

Same as food stamps assistance. If your income is just one dollar over the qualification amount, you don't get it. You "basically" can't afford to work. If you work for a small wage, you can't support your family. If you get government assistance, you can't work. That is how many people get "stuck" in welfare.

It's not because they LOVE to live in drug infested neighborhoods.

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Post by hadespussercats » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:35 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Svartalf wrote:Well, the poor just ought to get their tubes tied, and not reproduce, since they can't afford it.
Apparently, they can afford it, according to kiki, above. She explained how she afforded it.

They can have all the kids they want. The thing is, I wanted kids earlier too. I waited until I was better able to care for a child.

But, by all means, people who can't afford things, someone else should be made to buy it for them. makes sense.
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Post by kiki5711 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:38 pm

They can have all the kids they want. The thing is, I wanted kids earlier too. I waited until I was better able to care for a child.
If everyone thought like that, half the population on this planet would not have kids. It's not a "reasonable" argument based on human nature.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Ronja » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:39 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
They can have all the kids they want. The thing is, I wanted kids earlier too. I waited until I was better able to care for a child.
If everyone thought like that, half the population on this planet would not have kids.
Which would be a damn good start towards what the doctor ordered for planet Earth. :cheer:
kiki5711 wrote:It's not a "reasonable" argument based on human nature.
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Post by kiki5711 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:42 pm

Also just because you can "afford" to have a child, doesn't mean you will raise a decent, conscientious, good hearted adult. They may turn out to be monsters or serial killers, or any other degenerate human being existing along with those who were born to poor people with good hearts and became law abiding hard working adults.

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Post by Warren Dew » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:14 pm

Ronja wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:If everyone thought like that, half the population on this planet would not have kids.
Which would be a damn good start towards what the doctor ordered for planet Earth. :cheer:
That was my reaction too. Responsible family planning could do a lot for the world.

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Post by kiki5711 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:15 pm

Warren Dew wrote:
Ronja wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:If everyone thought like that, half the population on this planet would not have kids.
Which would be a damn good start towards what the doctor ordered for planet Earth. :cheer:
That was my reaction too. Responsible family planning could do a lot for the world.
What little world you live in. Heartless.

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Post by Warren Dew » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:18 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
Ronja wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:If everyone thought like that, half the population on this planet would not have kids.
Which would be a damn good start towards what the doctor ordered for planet Earth. :cheer:
That was my reaction too. Responsible family planning could do a lot for the world.
What little world you live in. Heartless.
Freely shipping food to wherever it's wanted today just means that you will be dooming even more to misery and starvation when the oil runs out.

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Post by kiki5711 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:03 am

Warren Dew wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
Ronja wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:If everyone thought like that, half the population on this planet would not have kids.
Which would be a damn good start towards what the doctor ordered for planet Earth. :cheer:
That was my reaction too. Responsible family planning could do a lot for the world.
What little world you live in. Heartless.
Freely shipping food to wherever it's wanted today just means that you will be dooming even more to misery and starvation when the oil runs out.
And so therefore people like you should decide who qualifies to have a child. Also you're probably in favor of sterilizing any female not born to wealthy educated parents. How pathetic are we as human being to think that way.

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Post by Warren Dew » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:16 am

kiki5711 wrote:And so therefore people like you should decide who qualifies to have a child. Also you're probably in favor of sterilizing any female not born to wealthy educated parents. How pathetic are we as human being to think that way.
You're the one suggesting sterilization, not me.

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Post by kiki5711 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:12 am

Warren Dew wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:And so therefore people like you should decide who qualifies to have a child. Also you're probably in favor of sterilizing any female not born to wealthy educated parents. How pathetic are we as human being to think that way.
You're the one suggesting sterilization, not me.
You didn't out right say it, but that was your implication.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by kiki5711 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:52 am

Just remember, being born to wealthy, educated home doesn't mean the children will turn out to be model citizens. In fact, they are more likely to become self centered, selfish, greedy and with the mindset they own the world, such as some person's here have expressed with their cold, cold hearted posts.

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Re: Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:03 pm

Svartalf wrote:Obviously kiki had a husband or additional revenue stream, since she did not starve on working while bringing home less than she spent on babysitting.
Perhaps.

What do you suggest? That anyone who wants to have children just have them paid for by the government dole?

I mean - already there is massive public assistance (in the US) for people who can't afford basic child care. Food will be given for free, as will cash cards for buying food and other necessaries, health care is free for those who need it. And, Section 8 housing is available for those who need it, as is welfare cash assistance.

What is your suggested addition to the current regime? Anyone making less than $50,000 or 50,000 Euros gets everything for free? If not, what?

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