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Re: Da Schneib shows up late

Post by Ronja » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:11 pm

Seth, that was an - er - interesting use of the word "friendly." But if that was the intention, that's cool by me.

I'm also good at spotting pompous - they say it takes one to know one, and by golly do I ever take myself too seriously at times. As you may have noticed...
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Re: Da Schneib shows up late

Post by Gallstones » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:08 pm

PordFrefect wrote:
Schneibster wrote:If you're just gonna be a dick I'll just leave you on ignore.

Duh.
Whatever. I spoke my mind and did so without being insulting. Who's the dick?

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Re: Da Schneib shows up late

Post by Schneibster » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:36 pm

maiforpeace wrote:Schneibster...why the name calling and the duh's?
Because he was a dick. And it's not namecalling. Not to mention it's not very bright to taunt someone until they put you on ignore and then get all whiny because you're on ignore.
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Re: Da Schneib shows up late

Post by maiforpeace » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:20 pm

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maiforpeace wrote:Schneibster...why the name calling and the duh's?
Because he was a dick. And it's not namecalling. Not to mention it's not very bright to taunt someone until they put you on ignore and then get all whiny because you're on ignore.
Calling someone a dick, whether you think it's true or not, is name calling. On a few occasions you've mentioned you've been around for a while...back in your day (which I'm assuming is close to my day since I'm 54) I know that calling someone a dick would be name calling...So, just a personal and polite request, it would be much more of a pleasure for me to read your posts without your brand of honesty, which is a little embarrassing and uncomfortable for me. That's totally my problem, I know, but I'm just askin', please?

I find it hard believe that you talk to people like this in real life (yea, yea, I know this isn't real life it's the Internet), so is it old age? ;) JUST TEASING. (Check out George Carlin's gag about aging in his last show, " It's Bad For 'Ya"), is it the anonyminity of the Internet, or what?
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Re: Da Schneib shows up late

Post by Schneibster » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:34 am

maiforpeace wrote:
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maiforpeace wrote:Schneibster...why the name calling and the duh's?
Because he was a dick. And it's not namecalling. Not to mention it's not very bright to taunt someone until they put you on ignore and then get all whiny because you're on ignore.
Calling someone a dick, whether you think it's true or not, is name calling.
Not if they're being a dick. They can stop anytime and then I won't call them a dick anymore. And that's because they won't be one anymore. Simple as that.

I can see perfectly well when someone's deliberately being a dick, and I have no hesitation in calling them out for it. I'm a dick myself, sometimes, and calling someone a dick is, after all, being a dick, even if they are being a dick. I reserve the right to be a dick sometimes but don't do it to people who aren't being dicks themselves. My tendency is to let folks determine how I treat them; if they don't like it, they need to change what they've determined to present to me. I don't see a lot of point in being nice to someone who's being a dick to me, and I have to point out that I've had a lot more success pointing out they're being a dick than being nice.
maiforpeace wrote:On a few occasions you've mentioned you've been around for a while...back in your day (which I'm assuming is close to my day since I'm 54) I know that calling someone a dick would be name calling...
Nope. Not in my circle, anyway. You called someone a dick because they were being a dick. "Don't be a dick," for example. Some of them took notice and stopped being dicks; others were too stupid, so we just marked them down as permanent dicks and avoided them.
maiforpeace wrote:So, just a personal and polite request, it would be much more of a pleasure for me to read your posts without your brand of honesty, which is a little embarrassing and uncomfortable for me. That's totally my problem, I know, but I'm just askin', please?
We'll see. I have a real attachment to honesty. It's a determining factor in my makeup. I consider it far more important than politeness. Also, there's the fact that you're asking me to be nice when someone's being a dick to me; you could always go ask them not to be a dick first, and then I wouldn't tell them they were being a dick anymore. The potential gains are much larger, you see; two people stop being dicks instead of one. So, simple question: why bug me about it when someone else started it? Try asking them not to be a dick before you start asking me to be dishonest, please.
maiforpeace wrote:I find it hard believe that you talk to people like this in real life (yea, yea, I know this isn't real life it's the Internet), so is it old age? ;) JUST TEASING. (Check out George Carlin's gag about aging in his last show, " It's Bad For 'Ya"), is it the anonyminity of the Internet, or what?
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Re: Da Schneib shows up late

Post by Robert_S » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:53 am

IMO, there is a significant difference between saying "You're being a dick" and "You are a dick".
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Da Schneib shows up late

Post by Jason » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:55 am

Gallstones wrote:
PordFrefect wrote:
Schneibster wrote:If you're just gonna be a dick I'll just leave you on ignore.

Duh.
Whatever. I spoke my mind and did so without being insulting. Who's the dick?

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Post by Jason » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:58 am

Schneibster wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:Schneibster...why the name calling and the duh's?
Because he was a dick. And it's not namecalling. Not to mention it's not very bright to taunt someone until they put you on ignore and then get all whiny because you're on ignore.
For the benefit of Mr. Kite (since I am apparently ignored), I didn't taunt you. I commented that this thread was full of drama then much later made one more post suggesting what I think was/is the cause of it and agreeing with another member. 2 posts, 1 directed to you and it wasn't even impolite.

Like I said, whatever.

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Re: Da Schneib shows up late

Post by Schneibster » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:02 am

Robert_S wrote:IMO, there is a significant difference between saying "You're being a dick" and "You are a dick".
Precisely, and you'll note I never said Pord was a dick, I said Pord was being a dick.

Also note that I never bothered to tell Seth he's being a dick; just put him on ignore and walked away. Far more contemptuous. Seth will never change and probably doesn't even believe the bullshit he spouts. CES, OTOH, might, but I've decided it's not my fucking job. I'll just keep blowing holes in the propaganda and maybe someday he'll figure it out.

ETA: Another point to ponder: I don't believe in being pointlessly mean. What I mean is, I wouldn't bother telling Pord s/he's being a dick if I didn't think s/he doesn't want to be a dick.
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Post by Schneibster » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:17 am

"I think you're just looking for attention."

Since you ask.

Trying to fuck with my head, especially when you start assigning motives to me, will piss me off quicker than any other single act you can do besides a direct physical assault.

And you're still whining about being on ignore. I look every so often to see if you've stopped being a dick. So if you just stop being a dick, eventually you'll get off ignore. But it's gonna be a while since you tried to fuck with my head, and since you insulted me by assigning a motive you have no fucking way of knowing is true or not. You could make the time shorter by apologizing if it bothers you that much.
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Re: Da Schneib shows up late

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:59 am

Schneibster wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:Schneibster...why the name calling and the duh's?
Because he was a dick. And it's not namecalling. Not to mention it's not very bright to taunt someone until they put you on ignore and then get all whiny because you're on ignore.
Calling someone a dick, whether you think it's true or not, is name calling.
Not if they're being a dick. They can stop anytime and then I won't call them a dick anymore. And that's because they won't be one anymore. Simple as that.

I can see perfectly well when someone's deliberately being a dick, and I have no hesitation in calling them out for it. I'm a dick myself, sometimes, and calling someone a dick is, after all, being a dick, even if they are being a dick. I reserve the right to be a dick sometimes but don't do it to people who aren't being dicks themselves. My tendency is to let folks determine how I treat them; if they don't like it, they need to change what they've determined to present to me. I don't see a lot of point in being nice to someone who's being a dick to me, and I have to point out that I've had a lot more success pointing out they're being a dick than being nice.
maiforpeace wrote:On a few occasions you've mentioned you've been around for a while...back in your day (which I'm assuming is close to my day since I'm 54) I know that calling someone a dick would be name calling...
Nope. Not in my circle, anyway. You called someone a dick because they were being a dick. "Don't be a dick," for example. Some of them took notice and stopped being dicks; others were too stupid, so we just marked them down as permanent dicks and avoided them.
maiforpeace wrote:So, just a personal and polite request, it would be much more of a pleasure for me to read your posts without your brand of honesty, which is a little embarrassing and uncomfortable for me. That's totally my problem, I know, but I'm just askin', please?
We'll see. I have a real attachment to honesty. It's a determining factor in my makeup. I consider it far more important than politeness. Also, there's the fact that you're asking me to be nice when someone's being a dick to me; you could always go ask them not to be a dick first, and then I wouldn't tell them they were being a dick anymore. The potential gains are much larger, you see; two people stop being dicks instead of one. So, simple question: why bug me about it when someone else started it? Try asking them not to be a dick before you start asking me to be dishonest, please.
maiforpeace wrote:I find it hard believe that you talk to people like this in real life (yea, yea, I know this isn't real life it's the Internet), so is it old age? ;) JUST TEASING. (Check out George Carlin's gag about aging in his last show, " It's Bad For 'Ya"), is it the anonyminity of the Internet, or what?
I do, no matter what you believe. Sorry to pop your bubble.
You did pop my bubble. :(

I thought you were older than you are. :what:

So much for taking a look at your profile. ;)
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Post by Schneibster » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:07 am

You'll have a lot of trouble trying to figure out how old I am by how I write; I try to keep up with the youngers so I don't get future shocked quite so bad. I'm in my late forties, less than ten years behind you. You can find a picture of me on one of the "ratz pictures" threads around here somewhere, and the Schneibsteress too.
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maiforpeace wrote:Schneibster...why the name calling and the duh's?
Because he was a dick. And it's not namecalling. Not to mention it's not very bright to taunt someone until they put you on ignore and then get all whiny because you're on ignore.
The cool thing about dicks who put people on ignore is that we get to make fun of them behind their back. Of course, most dicks who SAY they put people on ignore don't actually do so because they just can't stand the notion that someone's saying something behind their back, so they cheat and peek.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:01 pm

Seth wrote:
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maiforpeace wrote:Schneibster...why the name calling and the duh's?
Because he was a dick. And it's not namecalling. Not to mention it's not very bright to taunt someone until they put you on ignore and then get all whiny because you're on ignore.
The cool thing about dicks who put people on ignore is that we get to make fun of them behind their back. Of course, most dicks who SAY they put people on ignore don't actually do so because they just can't stand the notion that someone's saying something behind their back, so they cheat and peek.
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Schneibster wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:Schneibster...why the name calling and the duh's?
Because he was a dick. And it's not namecalling. Not to mention it's not very bright to taunt someone until they put you on ignore and then get all whiny because you're on ignore.
Calling someone a dick, whether you think it's true or not, is name calling.
Not if they're being a dick. They can stop anytime and then I won't call them a dick anymore. And that's because they won't be one anymore. Simple as that.
Pot, kettle, black.
I can see perfectly well when someone's deliberately being a dick, and I have no hesitation in calling them out for it.
And I can see perfectly well when someone's being a pompous ass, and I have no hesitation in calling them out for it. Seems we're even.

I'm a dick myself, sometimes,
"Sometimes?" :funny:
and calling someone a dick is, after all, being a dick, even if they are being a dick. I reserve the right to be a dick sometimes but don't do it to people who aren't being dicks themselves.
Sure you do, because your dick detector is broken.
My tendency is to let folks determine how I treat them; if they don't like it, they need to change what they've determined to present to me.


Hm, I've said the same thing myself.
I don't see a lot of point in being nice to someone who's being a dick to me,
And again, a point of congruency and synchronicity.
and I have to point out that I've had a lot more success pointing out they're being a dick than being nice.
In other words, you've been far more successful at being a dick than being nice. I agree.
maiforpeace wrote:On a few occasions you've mentioned you've been around for a while...back in your day (which I'm assuming is close to my day since I'm 54) I know that calling someone a dick would be name calling...
Nope. Not in my circle, anyway. You called someone a dick because they were being a dick. "Don't be a dick," for example. Some of them took notice and stopped being dicks; others were too stupid, so we just marked them down as permanent dicks and avoided them.
Or, as is more likely, the possibility exists that they were using your own paradigm against you because you were being a dick, but were being too much of a pompous ass to recognize it.
maiforpeace wrote:So, just a personal and polite request, it would be much more of a pleasure for me to read your posts without your brand of honesty, which is a little embarrassing and uncomfortable for me. That's totally my problem, I know, but I'm just askin', please?
We'll see. I have a real attachment to honesty. It's a determining factor in my makeup. I consider it far more important than politeness. Also, there's the fact that you're asking me to be nice when someone's being a dick to me; you could always go ask them not to be a dick first, and then I wouldn't tell them they were being a dick anymore.
You might also find that if you refrain from being a dick and a pompous ass, you won't have that sort of problem in the first place.
The potential gains are much larger, you see; two people stop being dicks instead of one. So, simple question: why bug me about it when someone else started it? Try asking them not to be a dick before you start asking me to be dishonest, please.
Of course, this relies on the false notion that "someone else started it." Actually, YOU started it.
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