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These are the facts

Post by Pogue » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:57 pm

An irrelevant fact may actually have relevance if the fact that it is irrelevant has relevance. It's a fact.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:00 pm

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Post by Hermit » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:22 pm

Pogue wrote:An irrelevant fact may actually have relevance if the fact that it is irrelevant has relevance. It's a fact.
Example?
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Re: These are the facts

Post by Pogue » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:29 pm

Why do you think an example would be relevant in this case?

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Post by Hermit » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:19 pm

Pogue wrote:Why do you think an example would be relevant in this case?
Hey, I just asked for an example of an irrelevant fact that may actually have relevance if the fact that it is irrelevant has relevance. Can you give me one?
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Re: These are the facts

Post by DRSB » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:31 pm

If I swear at you in a language you don't understand, you won't be bothered, in other words irrelevant. If I do it in English, you might be bothered. Relevant or irrelevant and what is the difference that makes the difference?
And is a fact not something that has a particular location in time and space. Or is just an idea? And what is the difference?

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Post by Pogue » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:50 pm

The wordplay is essentially intended as a mindfuck.

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Post by Hermit » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:50 pm

DRSB wrote:If I swear at you in a language you don't understand, you won't be bothered, in other words irrelevant. If I do it in English, you might be bothered. Relevant or irrelevant and what is the difference that makes the difference?
Swearing at someone in a language that is not understood by the target is one fact. Swearing at someone in a language that is understood by the target is another. Accepting that the lack of bothersomeness equals relevance for the sake of the exercise, the first fact is irrelevant as far as the target is concerned and the second is relevant. Swearing is not a fact. It's a concept, which makes the question you follow up with relevant. FACT! :mrgreen:
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Post by Hermit » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:57 pm

Pogue wrote:The wordplay is essentially intended as a mindfuck.
So, no example forthcoming?

To me a paradox is a mindfuck. Your opening post is just word salad meant to resemble one.
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Post by JimC » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:07 pm

Pogue is an agent of the lizard lords!

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Re: These are the facts

Post by Pogue » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:11 pm

Yes.

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Post by Pogue » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:13 pm

Hermit. Are you available for private tutoring lessons?

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Post by Rum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:32 pm

Facts appear to be fucked in the post truth world.

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Post by Pogue » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:39 pm

I'll pay you 3 apples and a candlestick for each session. We can fuse philosophy/physics with psychiatry.

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Re: These are the facts

Post by Rum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:43 pm

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